Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

If it makes you feel any better I'm not a huge fan of my starting locationg either.

Sorry about being "that guy" everybody :(

I'll play my turn as soon as I get home!

...in 8 hours....

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Samoht we are not rushing you to play the new turn. We were just saying that if you are the last one to play a turn(which takes like 2 min) then you might aswell see what the new turn is and play that turn aswell(shouldnt take you more than 5 min) No one is annoyed with you being unable to play a turn. It is just when you can make 1 turn you prob have time to do the other one aswell.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Four turns in and its already starting to feel a little cramped.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Independents are stronger than I expected.

^_^;

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Don't forget that they are set to 7! Technically they're almost 1/2 stronger than usual!

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Good idea always test dodgy provinces with your initial scouts set at the verry back to retreat. This way you get to know exactly how strong the independent's force is.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Starting to get close to the turn time and I worry abit of him getting a stale. Does LL know the new turn came out? He's usually very punctual with his turns.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Well, there is barely a turn every day so i guess he knows:)
I ll posponed the game.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Vanguard X you have an PM waiting for you.

With love
-The Arcos

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Well I certainly hope everyone is feeling as crowded as I am. Five turns in and I have already met three other players, knowing exactly where one capitol is and can guess where the other two are. Additionally there is one more player one or two provinces above that I've yet to meet. Probably Niefel since the dom candle has a cold scale on it. As a warning to you, I'm going to start expanding northward soooo we may want to avoid colliding armies. It's happened twice already. If you are that northern contact give us a hit and we'll negotiate something out.

This, is going to get very bloody very fast for the nation of Arco! Niefel, Aby, Form, and Caelum, it's a pleasure, lets retain peace until there is noone else to conquer.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Yea I agree that the map might be a bit to small for all of us. We should have picked a bigger map.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Well, there are still enough provinces out there for us each to conquer 10 more and the smallest of us would have 12 which is a respectable number and the largest of us would have 20.

Of course, 11 of those provinces are water provinces, but that only works out to 1-2 water provinces/player.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Some of us are feeling a bit of an odd placement cramp though is more my concern. If my calculations are correct that dom candle I saw was actually caelum giving me more room in the north to get up to (possibly) 10 provs providing noone else interferes. As it stands I've got 4 folks bordering me now which leads me to believe that Niefel, Ulm, and Caelum have the ENTIRE eastern front to expand in. And those are alot of farmland provs for just 3 nations. And while their expansion has been less than stellar... It's still quite a nice advantage if they can act on it.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Not quite. I'm already boxed in by bordering nations and I've had an accidental run in with another when we both attacked the same province in a turn. I don't have an entire eastern anything for me to expand into :p

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Yeah eastern part of the world looks quite crowed too :)
i lack spying to compare but i can guarantee u that there is no free land there ;)

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Well, I've been in a bit of a bind, you see. Picked the wrong provinces to attack, and with insufficient troops to do it with. Plus had a few instances where my crossbows decided to attack...nothing when there were large blobs of enemies closing in on them. :doh:

Terrible expansion phase on my part.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

After few private talks with player and the current comments on the thread, im afraid the game won't be fun because of the lack of balancing.

Also the noob team is in a bad shape for at least 2 of them. Nief don't stand chance because of his starting loc & Ulm has made a fail start.

Considering the situation i d like to know if you people want to go further or not.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

If people don't want to continue thats fine by me - Join the blood bowl.
I Myself had huge luck in everything I did so that kindoff gave me amazing start.
Imagine taking misfortune 2 and getting + 400 gold turn 3 and + 200 gold turn 4:D
Also Imagine killing the knight Solaris and finiding all his artifacts worth 100 of gems:D or finding an easy way to get to the seas or finiding amazons + gryphon riders(when you went for a sacred rush so you have amazing bless:D)
And now imagine you get all that + decent expansion:D.
So it feels unfair from my point of view.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Well since it does seem to basically be just Hinnom, Fomoria, and Arco left in the running at a mere turn 8 I'd say let us go ahead and kill it. I can jump into BloodBowl myself

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

I'm ok with aborting this game. My position seems fine, but it looks like the overall interest for this match is low already, and it's only turn 8.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

As Nief I'm actually doing great right now. I'm bringing it to Abysia very early in the game. They were one of the nations I was worried about facing in the long run (because they could melt me) but I just took their capital and have it under siege right now.

But if everybody wants to restart, I will grudgingly accept it.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

I'm up for anything. My expansion phase has been rough, but I think I've finally gotten my **** together. It'll be abit difficult for me to get back into the game, and my early is definitely subpar, but that's what the teams are for. :) Just need to make it to the late game.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

I for 1 would be disappointed with canceling the game at this point. This is my first time playing Hinnom and would like to see how my build runs.

Also I generally had the feeling that provinces at this stage were somewhat even on the team level which should be an indication that they were well-balanced.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Well finally the global feeling is positive or neutral !
Let s continue this then !

LL we are waiting your turn :)

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Ok lets play then:)

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In other news, the RNG gods have compensated me for my early game failures and given me two Members of the Third Tier, one F2S2B2 and the other F2S3B3. :o

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Glad to hear that every one has a reason to play on:)

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Well I was going to play on anyways, but damn. Two of them in a row.

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How does that work? Just two lucky events in a row? Guess we're gonna see your research spike here soon!

I continue to fight on with my nothing but 15 gold provs. Screw you, RNG!

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Seriously something is wrong with this RNG:D Just as I opened my turn I saw the message: Unexpected event has occured in EA Fomoria, so I thought crap there goes my lab or temple, but no,someone found fire gems in a hot valley:D. As I said before this is having taken misfortune 2 o.O.

Keep them comming RNG:D

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Two hero events (Third Tier are multi-heroes). Granted, I kinda wanted the Flying Immortal Vampire Count of Doom (even if he does raise unrest! Such a powerful thug right there that could've helped out my expansion), or Ghoul Guardian Freespawn Man, but practically instant access to flaming arrows means I can't complain (I'm no Bogarus in research, but I'll make it work). :D

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Hey LL, like for Samoht can you play 2 turns in a row when you are the last to play plz?

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

You guys and your random events. I took luck 3 scales and so far I have gotten abolutely nothing. :mad:

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Not only are they getting good events with Misfortune, every province they take apparently has 2 gem producing areas in them. THATS the big one.

Makes me want to raid Hinnoms delicious gem filled lands.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Hey! Site search your own lands if you want some gem sites. :cool:

You have to look if you want to find.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

You have nice neighbors at least. That's something lucky. :)

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

samoht is probably about to stale btw.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

postponed 6h

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

I was, thanks for that. Just played both my turns.

Also: in CBM people can recruit while they're under siege? Is that different than Vanilla? Having only played SP until recently, I can't remember the last time I was under siege in Vanilla so I can't remember for sure, but I thought people couldn't recruit while under siege?

That was a bit of a surprise.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

They can summon troops and cast any other magic rituals as long as they have lab in the besieged fort:)

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Ahh thats probably what it was. I'll have to go refresh myself as to what MA Abysia can wield.

IF IT ISN'T ALREADY TOO LATE.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Yeah now it's your turn to suffer !

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

NoooooooOOOOO! I'm a n00b. Go easy on me. :(

edit: should have just paid attention to the score graphs. Also: what a crappy starting position for me to have. Right next to the nation tailor made to counter mine.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Yay, this game looks like it's turning into a fun one. the man-child inside me is happy that we didn't abort.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

The man child inside of me is furious that, even with taking Lucke-3 scales, not only have I yet to have a single good random event, I had two horrible random events last turn.

I blame Illwinter.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Attention other nations of the world! Arcoscephale is seeking Water gems and will give out any equal trade for them (Except pearls, they will go for a fair 1.5/1 trade)

In addition, an Armour of Twisting Thorns would be just dandy. If you have access to this creation we would be interested in trading for it.

Now that we think of it, we could also use Earth Gems. About 10 of them. Make your offers!

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

I love the little nice horror marking trick of Ulm:D Take that horror mark 500 gold Melqart.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Well, I figured it'd be worth a measly 90 gold mage to potentially mark a SC pretender or something. Lucked out that no one else sent something. :p

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

I believe Niff. has suffered enough now. As if their kingdoms starting location was not enough already.

The Caelum empire expects for the armies that are assaulting Niefelheim to back away from our frost loving comrades immediately, or else face a sudden, and drastic change in the political landscape of this world.

Sincerely, Gael X Lord of heaven, and earth, and all things between.

Re: The Good, the Bad intermediates and the Ugly noobs (Running)
 

Lol, Ronove will eat the first horror that shows up for breakfast with his new Helm, Magical Trident and Heroic Quickness.

Even before giving him any magic items he has 8 attacks/round, 21 attack skill, 30 defense skill and 25 protection. :eek:

Unfortunately, it is far more likely that I will win the game before Ronove sees his first horror.

Just for the record, with these Arena rewards I would GLADLY take a horror mark as part of the cost.

In fact, I quite often horror mark my units for comparatively inferior quality stuff like a Robe of the Magii.