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Want to offer my appreciation to CthulhuDreams for kindly stepping in as Abysia.

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I find the best way to show appreciation in Dom3 is to sack his capital and kill his pretender. Otherwise, how can he know you are taking this whole appreciation business seriously? :D

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All right i m the new admin, and CthulhuDreams is the new owner of abysia.

Thx jimbo for your awesome advert :)

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Can we add +24h to give our new player time to get up to speed for his first turn?

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i did but he didn t seem to need it.

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Extend by 24h please.

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done

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Cheers for that, it was a clusterfuffle at work but I squeezed out the turn on my lunch-break.

Also, anyone with any prior diplomatic agreements with Abysia, please PM me on the topic.

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Another 24h extension if you could.

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Hosting error. Joy! We going to push on, or redo the turn?

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I confirm. Got a "stale turn" but I sent my turn yesterday and I received the usual acknowledgement, and I checked llamaserver and it received my turn indeed.
Of course, if everyone is affected in the same way, we could see that as a "lost" turn without great balance issue.
Cheers

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It was a hosting error, so everyone got a stale. Let's just keep going.

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Let's keep going then. Rollback are quite buggy we d better avoid it.

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Sweet. Thanks for confirming Bullock :)

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Well at this point i'm willing to concede the victory to Mictlan.
As soon as we have the unanimity on the subject he's the winner.

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Dito.

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I haven't been a contender for a long time so anything goes.

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I admit the game is becoming pointless but u r not supposed to leave like that Tiavals

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I suppose it was rude of me to leave, but really, was there anything I could do? My capital has been sieged for over 10 turns and I can't break the siege since the units sieging it are too powerful, and I have barely enough income to pay for my units upkeep, and I have 4 non-capital mages that can do a total of 16 RP per turn. It is most disheartening. But I do apologize.

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Yeah u r right but next time if u have that many forts and prov left ask first on the forum.

Btw i wouldn't have look for a sub in this case indeed.

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I unsuccessfully tried to contact Jimbo (Ermor) by mail. I tend to concede too, unless he has a last chance plan.

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Right. I guess I jumped to conclusions since it seemed the game was about to end.

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Sorry, been buried under a mound of work.

I'd be keen to play a few more turns. To me, the question is as follows:
When Mictlan and Machaka go to war, will Machaka pose a strong threat or will he be overwhelmed quickly?

If Machaka can make a go of it, I think that he and I (we are now best buddies are smacking each other around on the battlefield's of southern Agartha / northern Ermor for a bit) together with the mighty aquatic tentacled might of R'yleh and the apparently unkillable Agartha could probably turn it into a fun end game.

Of course, if Mictlan does to Machaka what he has done to pretty much everyone else (e.g. they explode in short order), well then the game is pretty clearly over :-)

What do people think? I've got my turn in, I'd like to at least see what happens for this turn.

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I've been taking the slow and steady road here for a while, and will continue with that. If I don't do a massive air drop on Machaka don't take that as a sign of weakness.

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Ok, I cannot face Mictlan alone, but I think that a league of the remaining nations could balance his power for an interesting endgame. Ermor and Agartha already expressed their will to continue. What do you think Bullock? Should we ask for a sub (Tiavals maybe)?

:bug: <-- signature for a spider :)

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Unfortunately I AI'd myself in my haste, really sorry about that. I'm beginning to wonder if you realize the situation my nation is in, with talk of subs and all. :)
The word paper tiger isn't enough to describe it.

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It will mostly depend on how u do sunray. U will take the biggest blow with Ermor. I let you engage hostilities.

lol at your signature btw ;)

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OK, the show goes on. I've had a positive reaction from several nations. :bug::bug::bug:

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Hi guys,

some change here. I often work abroad for short runs (it has sometimes caused me problems to send my turn BTW), but yesterday I've received a huge opportunity for a longer period, at least 3 months. Unfortunately it requests some urgent preparation at from Monday and I'll be unable to spend hours in plots and turn preparation :re:

I'm sorry but I really cannot miss this carreer opportunity (I'm a legal 'gatekeeper' in the international finance - hectic time here). Dominions is a serious stuff, but this is even more important.

Should I find a sub ? do you think that Tiavals or Hooley Dooley could play Machaka ? even if they maybe have something against Mictlan :hurt:

cheers

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If another player wants to sub, I am quite happy to push on.

Otherwise, if a sub is not possible, then I am prepared to salute my new Mictlanese masters :-)

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No i think i'll end the game, it is going nowhere anyway. Mictlan is gathering ressources faster than we can take them down. And with his main rival away it wont be fun.

If there no complaint about that i then announce the victory of Teraswaerto !

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No complaint for me. I'm sorry to let you down. And I realized too late that Mictlan was so strong (around turn 75, when all elem. Kings/Queens had declined to answer my call -- Nexus was the high point of his domination).

I'm rather proud of my combo Astral Tempest + Enchanted Forest/Carrion Reanimation. Too bad I had too few astral mages :angel

Exciting game. Well done Teraswaerto! and thank you all for the good times.

cheers

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Alright. I was about to start using Master Enslave on Machaka's larger armies, and to start attacking R'lyeh underwater in earnest so the game would've have probably been over anyway soon.

Thanks everyone, was fun, though I was surprised by the passivity of the other nations and the fact everyone kept fighting each other when Mictlan was emerging as the real threat.

The Nexus ended up costing more gems than I got out of it before it was dispelled so the only thing it achieved was to unite everyone against me.

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I wasn't the original admin of the game so i can't change the title, but

Teraswaerto - Mictlan - Winner

:)

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Yay Mictlan! A very good victory :-)

I had hoped to eke out one victory against you, by using master enslave myself (together with 15 kitted SCs and several thousand disposable undead). But I am confident that, even if this had worked, you would have just taken stock and then beaten the living daylights out of me - so perhaps it is just as well that we are ending now!

Also, i am having to massively wind down my Dom3 commitments, so this helps me a lot.

Bullock: many thanks for taking over as the game admin.

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Congrats on the win Teraswaerto.

Wonder if there'll be a third war of loemandor then?

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I would join it, but earcaraxe isn't around anymore. Does Bullock have any interested in admining 3rd war of Loemendor? The map is wonky and sort of unbalanced, but that makes for a different type of game which is fine also.

Anyone else interested in writing a sort of post-mortem of their nation? Why things went the way they did, that sort of thing. I think I'll put something together today.

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The short tale of Tien'chi:

Things were fine until a certain port province that was owned by Agartha(though I think it was owned by someone else in the beginning, not sure?) was the only place on my part of the continent that wasn't under my control. So I decided to take it. Unfortunately Pangae was a very loyal ally to Agartha, and started a war against me, a war that depleted both of our resources greatly.
At first Pangae had the upper hand with his vast amounts of chaff troops, although neither did advance much. Once I had amassed enough composite bowmen and fire mages, things changed. I noticed the usefulness of Fire Cloud as a spell against Pangae. It does poor damage, but as Maenads have no armor, it's really good against them as it lasts for a long time, and if they do get barkskin cast, their fire-resistance drops so it works pretty well against them even then.
Ultimately I advanced slowly but surely to pangae and had most of his non-fort provinces under my control. But the problem was, that he had one or two thousand maenads defending the place. Hunger is not an issue for them since they spawn for free and go berserk, so it was literally impossible for me to siege the place. In time I could have taken all of his other places and thus he would've been without money, which might have resulted in his troops deserting, if not for several Leprosy spells cast by someone on my sieging army. It was a really good move, since there was nothing I could do except wait for my army to die while he sat in his castle. Since most of my mages were there as well, my research had stagnated, and getting a new army would be really slow. I started pillaging his provinces since I knew there was nothing else I could do, and my guys died combined with disease and raids by Pangaen troops. After that, the lands I had conquered were easily reclaimed by their rightful owner. Apparently at the same time Mictlan has attacked Pangae and mostly destroyed his armies, leaving only a few unbeatable SCs sieging my capital which I couldn't defeat with my feeble own units, ending in a stalemate that lasted for the rest of the game(20 turns?).

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When it looked like you were going to defeat Pangaea, I started both casting leprosy at you and feeding gold to Pangaea, as you seemed to be winning and I wanted you two to stay at war until I was finished with Pythium.

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Sure, sounds like a good plan. I'll happily pull together something on MA Ermor, which will mostly consist of "and then Agartha and I headbutted each other again, and it was kinda painful for both of us" :)

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That wasn't Agartha's head ;)

Agartha's post-mortem goes something a little along the lines of R'lyeh wanted a secession of water provinces conquered by Agartha or he would try to get everybody to help him gang up on Agartha.

The aftermath of such extortion was Agartha butted Ermor's head with his left boot, seized R'lyeh's capitol with his right arm, played footsy with TC with his right foot and flailed his left hand in a flurry trying to stave off Abysia until Machaka could eat them.

Against any 1, or even 2 of those nations I could have mowed over, but the combination of them in 4 distinct directions and very different strengths and vulnerabilities made it exceedingly difficult to do anything but achieve a 30 turn stalemate

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I went with a D9F4W4 improsoned master lich. Starting position was horrible, in the middle of a bunch of wastelands with border mountains on all sides. I knew I wanted to get a 2nd fort up as soon as possible for more sacred recruitment and that Mictlan's cheapest forts were in mountain terrain so I struck South immediately, East and West could wait.

As soon as I encountered Machaka Southwest I reached out diplomatically looking for some kind of peace or NAP and he agreed. Expanding East I encountered Vanheim, who lost a bunch of weakly blessed sacreds to my expansion party. We had some talks, and he seemed to have given up really. I went ahead and attacked him.

Around this time we were setting up a joint attack on Ulm with Machaka. Ulm lost.

After that there was a lot solidifying the alliance with Machaka and talking about who to attack next. We agreed to each attack different targets while providing support if needed/possible. Machaka went on to fight Abysia in long drawn out war that he won in the end. I attacked Pythium who crumbled quickly, though taking his forts did take a good while since I did not want to fail a siege against some crazy theurg communion.

Around this time I decided I would attack whoever was south of Pythium, and began to give gold Pangaea and use Leprosy on Tien Chi, to even out their war. The rest is recent history.

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On Ryleh side there is not much to say. I've been in early wars to claim all sea provinces. I was planning to go hard against Pangaea thinking Agartha wouldn't bother me despite the couple sea provinces i took to him since he was already at war. Finally he has sent a nice raiding party straight to my cap for which i was absolutely not prepared. I've lost my cap for several turns and even if i wasn't dead literally my hopes to win the game were dead at this point. Turn 60 i felt like i was trn 30.

When i finally came back on my foot half of my seas had the mictlan's candle on them despite tons of preachers. And my strength compared to mictlan's was peanuts.

Now i had a pretty descent view of what was going around. I was pretty sure Mictlan was going to win when i saw Machaka going to the west in Abysia's lands. I think he didn't realize the gap of power he had already with mictlan. It s some kind of double victories for Mictlan : Diplo & military :) well done.

Congratz also to Excist for his resilience against so many foes.