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Well, I just tried the ftp link with my browser but it started complaining about passwords. I tried an anonymous login but it wasn't having any of it. Didn't try a specialised ftp client. Could also be some kind of firewall thing here at work but it seems unlikly.


How much space does an image mod mirror ned BTW? I might have room for it on my site. It's 24 hr and might serve Europe betetr than your US server.

(I'm seriously considering taking a tripod site BTW - 50 megs for free!)

[ 31 January 2002: Message edited by: dogscoff ]</p>

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The files are currently ~4MB, transfer limits are the biggest problem.

FTP: Try it again. I've tweaked some settings.

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Atrocities.

On your question for a download server, there are individuals who will host mirror sites and download sites in many areas. Most charge depending upon the size of the mirror site or download site. I think the avg price is between 50.00 to 125.00 US dollars.

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Here is my meagre contribution. I couldn't let the image mod go out without getting my finger in the pie=-)

There's a kind of flying religious multi-shrine thingy in there, but I'm not that pleased with it. Maybe it will insire someone else to do it better than I did.

I'm far more pleased with my bizarro worlds=-)

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Cool, CubeWorlds!

I'm ready to ditch the FTP thing, if it still dosen't work... I've got a second link that goes through HTTP to get the same files. Hopefully that will work better.

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>set the naming to match the order in which the minis appear. (starting at one for the top-left)<hr></blockquote>

Ok, forgive me, but I have no idea what you just told me to do. Just name the mini's starting with p0001????? or p0200?

I am not sure how to add them to the planet.bmp though. Sorry. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

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SJ: I tested your ftp client with Internet Explorer. It works fine for me.

I don't mind being the primary server for the mod, as long as there are not more than 125 downloads of all 4 files per day or more than 1,250 downloads of all 4 in a month, we'll be fine. I included a http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif and "no worries" in my post to indicate that I don't mind. And people need to click on the ad banner, so I don't get terminated.

On your page that lists the download mirrors for the mod, please put a little note that says to click on the ad banner on my site if people want to download the files from my site. It turns out that I'm not supposed to incentivize clicks on the ad banner, but there is no problem if other people do it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I noticed a problem on your main page. Some links have your site's url in the front of them. I think that with the geocities server, if you don't put "http://" in front of a url, it will think that the linked page is part of your site. Also, you left out a " in the link to spaceempire.org, which caused links to be read incorrectly. I've make a revised copy of the html for you and posted it here. It is in text file form, so you can click on it and read the html. Just save it over your index.html (or whatever the main page is called) and you'll be good to go.

Edit: Hmm, it seems that shrapnel wants to interpret the file as an html file, not a text file. Oh well. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ 31 January 2002: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]</p>

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Atrocities:
Just stick the 36x36 pixel minis in a long (big#)x36 image, side by side.
Name the portraits so that they match the minis:
count from 1 to 9999 going across like you are reading an (english) book.

All I really need is a nice package of minis, and the ability to tell which protrait goes with which mini, without opening the files all the time http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif .

Fyron:
Thanks. I think I've got all of them. (Excuse me for redoing the work manually, I've gotta work those errors out or I won't learn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )
PS: there seems to be a continuous stream of 20-30 hits per day, so you shouldn't run outta transfer. Especially now that I've got two other links to take some load.
As long as my current FTP site dosen't eat up 100's of megs in a day, I won't catch any flak.
I'll be setting up a second with unlimited transfer soon (friday if things go smoothly), with nobody to complain about it except my younger siblings http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Unfortunatly the price comes in the form of random downtime & lame "ISP dosen't feel like putting you through to the internet now, even though the connection is solid" error Messages.

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It's easy to make worlds with more bizarre shapes than just cubes. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

At Last the flying temple I'm modeling starts to resemble the image I have in my head. Still have to add it the skull, statue and other artifacts from the religious facilities.

1012537656.zip
(Note these are just silly examples and the preview of a picture in progress. If you find them interesting could easily make similar things)

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SJ:
You're setting up your own ftp server? Man, I hope you've got plenty of uploading bandwidth with your internet connection. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif My cable modem only gives me 6 KB/s uploads, which just plain sucks. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

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You know, its a good thing that you created an Image Mod request thread, cause I seem to have lead everyone away from the original purpose of this one. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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dogscoff:
the bizzaro world one? Yes.

Fyron:
Yes. I'm not sure, but at least 12KB/s on a good day. The transfer is unlimited though.

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Umm, your ftp server now gives me a message warning that proxy settings disable moving, deleting, pasting, etc., to the server. This is fine. However, I can't download any of the files. I wanted to see what the download speed would be, but I can't for some reason.

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I found I had to right-click & say "copy to folder..."
It dosen't seem to like Drag-and-Drop.
Ah, well. I'll ditch the FTP link, but there is a HTTP link to the same site lower down on the list.
The site won't come back Online until monday morning, anyways.

I'm setting up a second mirror now, that should be on most of the time...

PS: Fyron:
Does your host allow off-site image links? If so, you can copy the "Online" image I made, and I'll link to it like I am doing for my mirror.

[ 02 February 2002: Message edited by: suicide_junkie ]</p>

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S_J, have you downloaded and integrated my contribution? I'd like to take that zip down from my webspace.

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Umm, do you mean: can my site link to images on other servers, or do you mean: can other sites link to images on my server?

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Would it work if:
- You put a 235-byte GIF on your server.
- I link to it on the "choose a mirror" page
- If your site is up, the image appears to indicate that.

+++++++++++

Submission Update Time:
I've looked through the thread, and I added:
- Loknar's new mine component
- Dogscoff's shrine
- Loknar's Cyan & Purple stars
- Maleldil's cartoon submission.

I have partial downloads of:
- Fyron's planets submission with the solar system images. (Need credit.txt)
- Matryx's Hubble Warppoints (Need minis)
- Andrés Lescano's SW planets (Need credit.txt)
- Atrocities' Planets (Need minis)

If I'm going blind/senile, and you uploaded the "missing" bits already, please point that out, and I will look again.

[ 02 February 2002: Message edited by: suicide_junkie ]</p>

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Hmmm, try using this link:

http://galileo.spaceports.com/~kazha...ack/Online.gif

It loads the picture if I paste the link into the address bar. Let's see if it will work on your site.

[Edit]
I clicked on the link created here, and it gave me "file not found". Try it on your site anyways and we'll see what happens.
[/Edit]

I did a partial download of one of the files from your server, and the download speed averaged a little under 6 KB/s (I get 30 KB/s on my site, for reference). This is what I thought would happen. If you get several peole downloading from your server at once, then they are going to get really slow downloads.

[Edit2]
Oh yeah, the planets I uploaded were not done by me. I downloaded them from Shrapnel 5 months ago. There is no credits or readme file in the zip, so I have no clue who created them. I'll try looking in the Shrapnel archives to see if I can find out who did them.

Is there a new Version of the mod I need to host?
[/Edit2]

[ 02 February 2002: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]</p>

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I have not been able to find seplanetsver071.zip in the old downloads forum.

I did find a green stars mod done by Loknar, however.

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Well, the link failed. Oh, well. Your site is "always on" anyways.

6 K/s, eh? Well, you are all the way across the continent from me...
Have you tried using something like getright or one of the other download accelerators?
( http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif DUH! Just realized that download was probably slowed down due because my siblings are all still awake, surfing and downloading (video clips, even!) on two other computers) Try again in an hour, the local traffic should be over by then http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .
The best time would probably be 8 hours after I made this post, on weekdays that are not Tuesdays. (got all that? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif )

I haven't posted a new Version yet... there was one addition to components, one to facils, and a bunch to planets.

Try grabbing the new planets.zip from my mirror, and use the download tools if you've got 'em. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

++++++++++

Re: planets you submitted.
If nothing else, you could make a credits detailing what you do know. NASA images, a year old, unknown original poster, etc.

PS: I just got an email, indicating that the transfer limit on my original site is 3 GB/mo, measured at 4MB/h (one complete imagepack download per hour).

PPS: try "imagemodserver.mine.nu

[ 02 February 2002: Message edited by: suicide_junkie ]</p>

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Very strange thing happened. I downloaded the Planet Pack with GetRight, and it became a corrupt, invalid zip file. I then downloaded it without GetRight, and it worked fine. Very bizarre.

When I used GetRight it downloaded at 12 KB/s with one download and with three simultaneous downloads. When I downloaded it without GetRight, it downloaded at 13 KB/s. This is what I predicted. The total bandwidth for your server at any given time will be ~12 KB/s. I suggest you try and get a test set up where you have 10 or so people download the files at the same time. Make sure some use various broadband connections and some use dial-up modems. If theay all get ~1.2 KB/s (or some other small number), then I'm right. If they get better downloads, then I'm full of hot air. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

And about being on the other side of the continent from you, that is most irrelevant. So each stream of data takes 2 billionths of a second to reach me instead of 1 billionth. Big deal. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif The part about annoying younger siblings eating up your bandwidth makes perfect sense.

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Oh, well. The unlimited transfer is still worth it.

Bump:
I have partial downloads of:
- Fyron's planets submission with the solar system images. (Need credit.txt)
- Matryx's Hubble Warppoints (Need minis)
- Andrés Lescano's SW planets (Need credit.txt)
- Atrocities' Planets (Need minis)

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Ahhh..
finally here you go. the minis for the hubbleimages.
(Here)

Re: Official Image Collection
 

You want a credits.txt for files I didn't make? Fine! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Pictures XXX-YYY were submitted by Imperator Fyron. They were not made by him. He downloaded them during the summer of 2001 from the Shrapnel graphics modifications forum. They were in a zip file entitled "seplanetsver071.zip". The file had no readme or credits.txt in it. A search of the old files forum yielded no results as to who originally posted them. If you know who made them, please tell us so we can give proper credit where it is due.

How's that? You can shorten it if you want to.

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TATOOINE
originally made by Dan North &lt;Dannorth@bigpond.com&gt;
downloaded from Sci-Fi3D

CORUSCANT
originally made by Topa &lt;Topa@sunpoint.net&gt;
downloaded from Sci-Fi3D

Both of them edited for SE4 by me.
There are a few other planets there, but I don't think they are different enough to be worth adding.
Take a look at
http://www.theforce.net/scifi3d/star...nt/planets.htm
and tell me if you want me to make portrait and minis from any of those pics.

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Matryx, Fyron, Lescano:
Done!
PlanetPack.zip is now a beefy 2,848 KB!!!

Just waiting for Atrocities' minis, and new submissions now...

There's lots of room for new beam & torpedo images, as well as all the components that have been requested in the other thread. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

+++++++++++++

All the ZIPs have been updated to v1.3
All have at least one change, plus major credits upgrades.

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I will have the planet images ready by the end of tomorrow. Sorry about the time thing, but I have other pressing matters. Thanks SJ for the info on what I need to do.

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SJ, I just got a 404 from Geocities when trying to download facilities, combat and component packs.
it wasn't a 'this file is currently unavailable' error it was a 'this file really doesn't exist' one.

Edit:
oh.. and I just noticed the PlanetPack was only V1.2 when it downloaded...

[ 03 February 2002: Message edited by: Matryx ]</p>

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Argh, a stupid case-sensitivity error. I'm on it.
...Done...

[ 03 February 2002: Message edited by: suicide_junkie ]</p>

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Hmm, new Version. Guess I better get those.

Umm, v1.3? What happened to v1.2? Do we not like even numbers? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

If you want, I can make you like 12 or so more mirrors.

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I'm trying to keep the numbers together, so a mod can say "needs v1.3", rather than "needs combat v1.2, planets v1.7, components v1.12, and facilities v1.6"

The more the merrier, although we shouldn't need that many. I was only getting 30 hits a day.
(Heh. Getting hit for an upload right now http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif )

If the mirrors support an offsite image link, that would be best, so I can put the Online/offline indicator up. I'll take lots of those http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif .

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Okay, my site is all updated now. I changed the format a bit more to my tastes. I'll try and find some free web hosts that allow off-site image links so I can make some more mirrors.

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Ok, I hope this is what you needed me too do.

New Planets Zip

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Very nice.
They should all be in & uploaded by Tuesday night.

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SJ:

I posted new components in the B5 mod in the latest update - I moved them down pretty far, actually extended your sheet a bit. There are some blanks, but they will be filled in as new weapons of those categories are added (wanted to keep them grouped together). I still have more to add, probably another 4-5 lines worth. Just finishing up engine and reactor components and still have a few weapons to do.

I also fixed the beam and torps on the B5 mod to be further down the list and the Planets as well (they are in slot 541 & 542) - though I forgot to add the Planets to my disk this morning, have to wait 'til tonight to upload.

Let me know if their placements (number wise) are ok, I've already updated all my data files to match the new numbers.

Thanks!

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RE: numbers
I usually just grab the components from wherever they are, and renumber them accordingly. If you want to renumber them for me, I won't complain http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

For now, start on the next free row of the mini.bmp

I will have to test if components & facilities are limited to 999, or if they can go higher.
If not, I'll have to start cramming things into solid rows later.

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Planets are also now posted.

Planets.zip

Here are the other components (& combat):

B5_Components.zip

[ 05 February 2002: Message edited by: Val ]</p>

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Fyron: Noticed a little bug in your Imagemod mirror list.

The IP for my primary is not static, so the display always reads "offline". You need to use imagemodserver.mine.nu instead of the IP on the primary. The secondary is a static IP, so that one's OK.

Val:
Credits?

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Here you go.

Credits_Val.txt

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Sweet. SE4 just passed a big test. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

We are not limited to 999 component images.

There may be a limit at 64K, but it'll be a while before we get that many http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Keep the artwork coming!
I'll send out IM v1.4 on the weekend.

PS: my alternate mirror seems to have gone wonky, so I'll just drop it. There are still 3 left http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Fyron: Noticed a little bug in your Imagemod mirror list.
The IP for my primary is not static, so the display always reads "offline". You need to use imagemodserver.mine.nu instead of the IP on the primary. The secondary is a static IP, so that one's OK.<hr></blockquote>

Ok, all fixed now. I would have made some more mirrors by now, but I've been... err... distracted by Diablo II http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif . I'll get them made when I have a chance.

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Val: component #606 has two "."'s
"comp_606..BMP"

Most of the positions were OK, but I had to move your planets stuff to locations 581 through 583.
(Gate, hole, void)

Atrocities: Perfectly fine. 20 planets to a line, then going down to the next row would be slightly easier for me, but in any case, I'm done now.

+++++++++++++++

planetpack.zip has gotten so enormously huge that it has become worthy of an upgrade zip.
planetpack is 3.9 MB is size, while "planetpack3to4" is 1.8 MB in size.
Still massive, but worth hosting.

Combat and components have also updated, and the changes are progressing through the mirrors now.

"SJ's primary" will always be updated first, and will retain older files for longer.

I've added a nice new "updating" image for the mirror status window. Too bad I was likely the only one to see it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif


PS: Fyron:
The mirror grid on your page has a bit of a bug. Since geocities dosen't allow those off-site links, you need to use the "unknown" image there.

Replace the primary's status cell image with this:
By using status.gif, your visitors will be able to see the "Updating" and other miscellaneous Messages I may create.

[ 08 February 2002: Message edited by: suicide_junkie ]</p>

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Yaaay!

Some of my moded images made their way into the image collection! Woo-hoo.

Well.. okay, yes, they were just modifications of MM's pictures, but what do you think I am, an artist? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

I'm pumped. Maybe I'll give the trial 3dsmax a try now.

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Well SJ, it's not as if I tested those links or anything. I just copied it from your site. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

More updates, huh? Guess I'll have to get those now.

And it turns out that spaceports does give me statistical info on the number of hits and the bandwidth used.

[ 08 February 2002: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]</p>

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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Atrocities: Perfectly fine. 20 planets to a line, then going down to the next row would be slightly easier for me, but in any case, I'm done now.<hr></blockquote>

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Ok, sorry about that, wasn't sure what in the hell I was doing. I just kept going and going and going. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Thanks SJ for doing all the work on this. You should take a lot of pride in knowing that many of us dearly appreciate what you and all of the other members have done here.

Are you going to make a banner for the page, along with banners for all of the Mirror sites?

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Hey, no prob. The key thing is that the minis are in a recognizable order http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

You're welcome. This project actually turned out to be less work than I expected, thanks to some of the early thread suggestions.

As for banners, I seriously doubt I can make a worthy banner. If I were to make one, I would probably try to make a collage of all the images submitted (or at least lots of them) to make a battle scene. Background stars would be from the submissions's minis, two or more ships made of collaged components, and mix in some of the crazy combat images.

My site is certainly not graphics oriented. I have one instance of the helix cannon from my sig, and 10 x 250byte status lights. And I just got an email yesterday saying the site had overflowed its bandwidth limit again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif


Fyron:
Hey, do those stats include the referrer? I'd like to see the distribution of clicks across the mirror list.

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SJ:

Could you reserve the next 4 lines from where I Last left off? I am working on adding the other weapons to B5 and am now adding other components as well. I will try to post as much as I have by Monday. I did post the living CPU and Shipboard Telepaths in :

CPU_Teeps_Med.zip

Which has a large and 36x36 pic already. The large pics are episode clips. For the 36x36 I used the person from SE IV and added to them. You may also notice another line is half filled with new weapons under the lasers (these are matter weapons), the larger ones I will post all together http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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SJ:
Here is a screenshot of what I get when I look at the hit statistics for February so far:

February Stats

So to answer your question, no. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

EDIT:
In case anybody cares, I have redone the forum on my web site. Humor me and register on it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ 09 February 2002: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]</p>

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Oh well. You can probably estimate how many were for imagemod downloads by the total transfer. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Regarding the reservation of lines.
since we have at least 3000 lines available, I don't see a problem with reserving extra lines.

Which component numbers are you planning on filling?

Re: Official Image Collection
 

B5ModComponents_New.zip

I just filled another couple rows with crew components, reactors and engines (the empty spots in the engine/reactor rows are for the fighter and ancient tech - yet to be completed). So that brings my list to image 720 right now. I'm guessing your armors for B5 will take a row or two, torpedoes another row and Gravitic, AntiMatter & ElectroMag weapons another 2 rows. So I would like to hold the next 5-6 rows (721-841/865) for those components. I've also filled some of my currently empty space with Vorlon and Shadow weapons, Matter Weapons and PDF weapons (most PDF Versions of a weapon that is both PDF and Direct Fire have a blue muzzle). Also added crews (people in halls/med bays/security stations, Grappling Hooks, Breaching Pods, and some other things - in all I think it was about 91 new components.

SJ: How many different armors will we have for B5?