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Re: Ukraine 2021(?)

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Originally Posted by DRG (Post 851731)

What seemed odd about that report from the start was they ( theoretically ) would not have had them all that long but reported 700 didn't work...... that's a lot of missiles flying around. I realize there are a lot of targets but still, it seems odd in that short of time it would be known that out of 2700 reported that they PLANNED to send on March 3 that it would be known in so short a time that 700 failed to fire

It doesn't add up

military stuff gets issued in batches and lot numbers, all of which have serials. Ukraine could have encountered a "failure to fire" rate that was unacceptably high in some batches of SA-7s sent to them by Germany, and unilaterally decided that those entire batches are to be considered "bad", rather than try and take the time to figure out which ones may still work.

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Originally Posted by DRG (Post 851731)

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Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH (Post 851722)

Ashamed about the STRELA's if true, they at least might've been effective to a degree against the Russia helicopters.

Apparently if you do the long-term service check for those missiles (which has been now done after the pull-out from long storage it would seem) it involves a full strip down to the motor core component level. Also a very critical part seems to be the ejection/launching charge as well.

Look inside these parts and if you see cracks in the solid fuel, then it is toast - so back to the factory or (since that is not possible here) - off to the bin with it.

(From some discussion I read somewhere on t'inernet - maybe tanknet forums?)

Re: Ukraine 2021(?)

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Originally Posted by carp (Post 851736)

How is everyone adjusting for the dismal performance of Russian armor in UA? I've lowered quite a bit of numbers, but I can't quite get the APS to give me any flexibility. Breakdowns I can't seem to influence either.

Crossposted from another thread:

I wouldn't go so far as to demand active protection system (APS) changes.

I've looked into this myself as I have a Ukraine scenario pushed out.

From photographic evidence of abandoned/captured T-90A Vladimirs in Ukraine, they have been equipped with the Shtora APS Countermeasure system which includes two IR Dazzler/Jammers, plus a smoke grenade system integrated with early warning systems.

This level of APS does NOT include active counter-munitions; and in playtests, it provides protection against Javelin by degrading missile accuracy, but doesn't make T-80s invulnerable.

The Russians have been "testing" next generation APS (Arena-M and Afganit) which include active counter-munitions on and off since the early 2000s; but nothing has been procured in numbers -- I guess we all know where the money for that went, to oligarch dachas and mega yachts.

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Did anyone notice we are not seeing the T-14s being used in Ukraine?

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SPECULATION there a plenty of other tanks available that have been in service for some time that crews are fully trained on. The T-14 is still undergoing field trials (IIRC).

Yes, this would be a good place to do "field trials" but OTOH you wouldn't really want to take the chance that one, or more might be destroyed or break down and be captured. It would be quite a propaganda coup for Ukraine to show a destroyed one to the world

Plus I suspect ( more speculation) that this "'special military operation' " was expected to be over quickly and bringing them into it was thought unnecessary.

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Originally Posted by Karagin (Post 851743)

Did anyone notice we are not seeing the T-14s being used in Ukraine?

I can hardly see T90s, let alone T14s.

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Originally Posted by Aeraaa (Post 851747)

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Originally Posted by Karagin (Post 851743)

Did anyone notice we are not seeing the T-14s being used in Ukraine?

I can hardly see T90s, let alone T14s.

Seen claims of T90s running around, but as I said we don't see their "super" tanks doing all they claimed and DRG points out the big issue, this wasn't supposed to drag on or at least not be a mess.

Re: Ukraine 2021(?)

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Originally Posted by Karagin (Post 851749)

Seen claims of T90s running around, but as I said we don't see their "super" tanks doing all they claimed and DRG points out the big issue, this wasn't supposed to drag on or at least not be a mess.

Yes a mess indeed and thinking that in the planning for this "special military operation" the deaths of two Major Generals wasn't expected.....Sukhovetsky first and recently Gerasimov

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...inistry-claims

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The intelligence arm of the Ukrainian defence ministry said Maj Gen Vitaly Gerasimov, chief of staff of the 41st Army, had been killed outside the eastern Ukrainian city of Kharkiv, along with other senior officers.The investigative journalism agency Bellingcat said it had confirmed Gerasimov’s death with a Russian source.

Bad enough to lose two senior officers but the Ukrainian Defence ministry is also reported to be claiming

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what it claimed was a conversation between two Russian FSB officers discussing the death and complaining that their secure communications were no longer functioning inside Ukraine.

IF that is all true it does not paint a very good picture but the most important part of that is "IF that is all true"

If you want to mess with the other side's military intelligence then having two guys talking over unsecured communication is a great way to find out if that communication is being monitored because you know a death like that would be reported

Then the next question is what are the Ukrainians ( or their supporters ) doing that is negating Russian secure transmissions and we may never know

Re: Ukraine 2021(?)

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Originally Posted by DRG (Post 851731)

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Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH (Post 851722)

Ashamed about the STRELA's if true, they at least might've been effective to a degree against the Russia helicopters.

When this subject appeared on 4 March, Strelas had not been sent by that date, and only German Spiegel magazine revealed (what for?...), that according to Waffenamt (or something similar) report, probably only around 2000 of 2700 are useful. By that date there was no decision taken to send them. Bundeswehr answered anyway, that all equipment would be verified before sending.

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Originally Posted by Aeraaa (Post 851747)

I can hardly see T90s, let alone T14s.

At least 14 T-90 were lost according to https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/0...wrtv6kT1iUSBdA

Re: Ukraine 2021(?)

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Originally Posted by DRG (Post 851750)

what it claimed was a conversation between two Russian FSB officers discussing the death and complaining that their secure communications were no longer functioning inside Ukraine.

I think a bit more explanation is needed here.

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Christo Grozev on Twitter:

In the phone call in which the FSB officer assigned to the 41st Army reports the death to his boss in Tula, he says they've lost all secure communications. Thus the phone call using a local sim card. Thus the intercept.

The idiots tried to use the Era cryptophones in Kharkiv, after destroying many 3g cell towers and also replacing others with stingrays. Era needs 3g/4g to communicate.

The Russian army is equipped with secure phones that can't work in areas where the Russian army operates.

This explains why no EW war in Ukraine -- the Russians need commercial 3G/4G bandwidth to run the ERA cryptophones.

This may not be as crazy as it sounds. I think ERA was meant to be a secure portable cryptophone for use within "normal" areas -- i.e. Moscow, St. Petersburg, etc by FSB/SVR/Defense Ministry officers.

There may also be a shortage extending from squad level radios (hence use of Chinese Baofeng unencrypted radios) all the way up to field grade satellite cryptophones -- forcing the Russians to use these 3G/4G only capable crypto phones for higher staff HQs, which in turn forced them to dial back the EW war.

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Christo Grozev on Twitter:

The Russian army is equipped with secure phones that can't work in areas where the Russian army operates.

:eek:

:doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:

I love it...... Hmmmmm thinking of a word that begins with "cluster" ......

Re: Ukraine 2021(?)

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Originally Posted by DRG (Post 851757)

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Christo Grozev on Twitter:

The Russian army is equipped with secure phones that can't work in areas where the Russian army operates.

:eek:

:doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:

I love it...... Hmmmmm thinking of a word that begins with "cluster" ......

Seen the US military have commo issues even when they have networks up and running.

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It's one thing to have com problems.
It's a whole other level of "oops" to knock out all the subsystems you need to make them work though

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Footage of an ambush against a Russian tank/mech column with what appears to be infantry with close range AT weapons:

https://mobile.twitter.com/RALee85/s...88123963207683

Google map of the location, street view possible:

https://www.google.com.ua/maps/place...=ru&authuser=0

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The problem with these things from the firers POV is the smoke trace that points to exactly where it was fired from.

That may not be true for all types but it certainly was for what was used there

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https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status...7x426LIf2KCZBw

Some trolling from Ukraine:

Head of Anti-corruption agency of Ukraine sent a letter to Russian defense minister Shoigu thanking him for embezzlement of Russian army

https://nazk.gov.ua/wp-content/uploa...yst-SHojgu.pdf

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НАЦІОНАЛЬНЕ АГЕНТСТВО З ПИТАНЬ ЗАПОБІГАННЯ КОРУПЦІЇ
Повітрофлотський пр-т, 27, м. Київ, 03049

NATIONAL AGENCY ON CORRUPTION PREVENTION
27, Povitroflots'kyi Ave, 03049, Kyiv, Ukraine

1012, № OA OA I AOA 11 - 21 Ha №

від________________

Министру оборони российской федерации

Сергею Кужугетовичу ШОЙГУ

БЛАГОДАРСТВЕННОЕ ПИСЬМО

Национальное агентство по предотвращению коррупции (далее - Агентство) поддерживает всех представителей иностранньїх государств, которьте способствуют развитию украинских антикоррупционньїх органов, а также помогают в усиленим демократических институтов в У крайнє.

В связи с отим Агентство вьіражает искреннюю благодарность Министру оборонні российской федерации Сергею Кужугетовичу Шойгу за неоценимьій вклад в то, что российские средства и ресурсьі обеспечения для нападения на Украину бьіли разворованьї еще на зтапе их накопления на границе двух государств.

Участвуя в методической, системной и долговременной работе по хищению бюджетних средств российской федерации, которьіе вьіделялись на развитие воєнного потенциала, Сергей Шойгу вместе с другими должностньїми лицами оборонного сектора способствовал ускорению ликвидации оккупантов на землях суверенного государства Украиньї.

Настойчивое стремление должностньїх лиц Министерства оборони и вооруженньїх сил российской федерации присвоить средства российских налогоплательщиков, которне должньї били пойти на нужди армии, существенно облегчают защиту демократической Украиньї.

Благодаря зтому украинские антикоррупционньїе институции, которьіе работают для обеспечения прозрачности использования публичннх средств, противодействуют коррупции, мошенничеству и зкономической преступности, смогут как можно бистреє возобновить свою деятельность вместо того, чтобьі тратить время на уничтожение оккупантов на своей земле, а также металлолома, привезенного иними на территорию нашего государства.

Примерами зтой безусловно важной деятельности являются множество фактов, которие смогли документально подтвердить военнослужащие и работники украинской разведки.

В частности, искренний восторг вьізьівает защита российских танков Т-72 и Т-80, сделанная из картонних лотков из-под яиц. Без сомнения зти средства защитн военной техники заслуживают того, чтобьі стать отдельньїм фактором оценки в Индексе сильї (Powerindex) при формировании рейтинги сильнейших армий мира Global Firepower.

Также Агентство вьіражает глубокую благодарность за использование для целей передвижения личного состава ЗИЛ-ІЗО, аналогов которому в мире нет. Кроме очевидного комфорта, которьій ощугцают российские военньїе в открьітом кузове при украинских мартовских морозах, скорость передвижения данного транспортного средства, а также яркий аквамариновий цвет кузова, позволяют силам местной территориальной обороньї зффективно проходить тренировочную подготовку по зксплуатации современного вооружения по легким мишеням.

Отдельной благодарности также заслуживает обеспечение российских воєнних продовольственньїми наборами, срок годности которьіх истек еще в 2015 году. Из-за отсутствия продовольствия российские оккупационньїе войска бросают воєнную технику и сдаются местньїм жителям украинских сел для того, чтобьі поесть.

Также восхищение вьізьівают бронежилетьі, изготовленньїе из картона, вместо бронированньїх пластин, которьіе бьіли надетьі на членов зкипажа захваченного российского бронеавтомобиля «Барнаул-Т».

Бронежилетьі сказались настолько крепкими, что бьіли поврежденьї обьічньїм стрелковьім оружием. В связи с зтим вьіражаем отдельную благодарность, ведь теперь бронеавтомобиль несет службу в рядах сил обороньї Украиньї и помогает противостоять агрессору.

Хотим также обратить внимание на то, что на месте бронированньїх пластин бьіла обнаружена памятка «О порядке вьіявления коррупционньїх и других нарушений при вьіявлении конфликта интересов в воєнних подразделениях».

Под впечатлением от такой основательной и детализированной методологической поддержки военнослужащих оккупационньїх войск, зкспертьі Агентства подготовили ряд рекомендаций для дальнейшего включення в соответствующие бюллетени.

Так, согласно с общепринятьім определением конфликт интересов - зто наличие у лица частного интереса в сфере, в которой оно вьшолняет свои служебньїе или представительские полномочия, что может повлиять на обьективность или беспристрастность принятия им решений.

Видим риск в том, что, несмотря на наличие мобильньїх крематориев, привезенньїх на территорию Украиньї командованием генерального штаба вооружснньїх сил российской федерации, частньїй интерес российского военнослужащего сохранить свою жизнь вместо вьшолнения приказов его командования, все еще крайнє вьісок. В связи с зтим предлагаем уменьшить вероятность конфликта интересов, дополнив бюллетени следующей пошаговой инструкцией:

«В случае пересечения границьі с Украиной российский военнослужащий обязан:

- добраться до ближайшего населенного пункта;

- отойти от техники на безопасное расстояние и бросить оружие;

- попросить прощення за пересечение границьі без паспортного контроля;

- подождать украинских воєнних, которие позволят позвонить маме;

- ждать своего возвращения домой.»

Надеемся на плодотворнеє сотрудничество по учету наших рекомендаций.

В приложении к благодарственному письму отправляем фотографии, иллюстрирующие вьішеупомянутьіе достижения. Отправляем письмо сейчас, пока на россии еще єсть иностранная компьютерная техника, которая позволяет просмотреть соответствующие фотографии.

Глава

Александр НОВИКОВ

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Космічні технології кумулятивного захисту російських танків Т-72 і Т-80 виявилися картонними контейнерами для яєць...

Приложение №2

Приложение №3

2017 г.

ПАМЯТКА подразделениям по профилактике коррупционньїх II ИІІЬІХ

правонарушений (должностньїм лицам, ответственньїм за работу по профилактике коррупционньїх н иньїх правопарушений)

по порядку виявлення копфликта интересов

Приложение № 4

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To the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation

Sergei Kuzhugetovich SHOIG

THANK YOU LETTER

The National Agency for the Prevention of Corruption (hereinafter referred to as the Agency) supports all representatives of foreign countries who promote the development of Ukrainian anti-corruption bodies, as well as assist in strengthening democratic institutions in Ukraine.

In this regard, the Agency expresses its sincere gratitude to the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Sergei Kuzhugetovich Shoigu for his invaluable contribution to the fact that Russia's funds and resources for the attack on Ukraine were stolen even at the stage of their accumulation on the border.

Participating in methodical, systematic and long-term work on embezzlement of the Russian Federation's budget funds, which were allocated for the development of military potential, Sergei Shoigu, along with other defense officials, helped accelerate the elimination of occupiers in the sovereign state of Ukraine.

The persistent desire of officials of the Ministry of Defense and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation to appropriate the funds of Russian taxpayers, which should be used for the needs of the army, significantly facilitates the defense of a democratic Ukraine.

Thanks to this, Ukrainian anti-corruption institutions, which work to ensure transparency in the use of public funds, combat corruption, fraud and economic crime, will be able to resume their activities as soon as possible instead of spending time destroying the occupiers on their land and metal. the territory of our state.

Examples of this certainly important activity are many facts that could be documented by servicemen and Ukrainian intelligence officers.

In particular, the protection of Russian T-72 and T-80 tanks, made of cardboard trays made of eggs, is a source of sincere delight. Undoubtedly, these means of protection of military equipment deserve to become a separate factor in the evaluation of the Powerindex (Powerindex) in the formation of ratings of the world's strongest armies Global Firepower.

The Agency also expresses its deep gratitude for the use of ZIL-IZO personnel, which has no analogues in the world, for the purposes of movement. In addition to the obvious comfort of the Russian military in the open body during the Ukrainian March frosts, the speed of the vehicle, as well as the bright aquamarine color of the body, allow the local territorial defense forces to effectively undergo training in the use of modern light weapons.

Special thanks are also due to the provision of the Russian military with food kits, the expiration date of which expired in 2015. Due to the lack of food, the Russian occupation forces abandon military equipment and surrender to the locals of Ukrainian villages in order to eat.

Also admiring are the bulletproof vests made of cardboard, instead of armored plates, which were worn on members of the crew of the captured Russian armored car "Barnaul-T".

The bulletproof vests were so strong that they were damaged by ordinary small arms. In this regard, we express special gratitude, because now the armored car is serving in the ranks of the Defense Forces of Ukraine and helps to resist the aggressor.

We would also like to draw your attention to the fact that a memo "On the procedure for detecting corruption and other violations in the detection of conflicts of interest in military units" was found at the site of the armored plates.

Impressed by such thorough and detailed methodological support of the occupying forces, the Agency's experts prepared a number of recommendations for further inclusion in the relevant bulletins.

Thus, according to the generally accepted definition, a conflict of interest is that a person has a private interest in the field in which he or she exercises his or her official or representative powers, which may affect the objectivity or impartiality of his or her decision-making.

We see a risk that, despite the presence of mobile crematoria brought to Ukraine by the command of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the private interest of the Russian serviceman to save his life instead of following his command's orders is still extremely high. In this regard, we propose to reduce the likelihood of conflict of interest by supplementing the bulletins with the following step-by-step instructions:

"In case of crossing the border with Ukraine, a Russian serviceman must:

- get to the nearest settlement;

- move away from the equipment to a safe distance and drop your weapon;

- apologize for crossing the border without passport control;

- wait for the Ukrainian military, who will call my mother;

- wait for your return home. "

We hope for more fruitful cooperation in taking into account our recommendations.

In the appendix to the letter of thanks we send photos illustrating the above-mentioned achievements. We are sending the letter now, while there is still foreign computer equipment in Russia, which allows you to view the relevant photos.

Chapter

Alexander NOVIKOV

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https://i.redd.it/wmeeut66eil81.png

Space technologies of cumulative protection of Russian tanks T-72 and T-80 turned out to be cardboard containers for eggs ...

Basically, in some Russian ERA packages; they have cardboard spacers that look like egg containers that help keep the ERA blocks aligned properly within the package:

https://media.discordapp.net/attachm...unknown-10.png

It's looking like people never manufacturered the ERA blocks and inserted them; instead doubling up on cardboard spacers and bribing the inspectors to "certify" the armor as passing state inspection standards, and pocketing the money :shock:

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:doh:

That is from a short video HERE

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Originally Posted by DRG (Post 851767)

The problem with these things from the firers POV is the smoke trace that points to exactly where it was fired from.

That may not be true for all types but it certainly was for what was used there

I saw one claim that two types were used, the first firing being blacker smoke which is to have missed and the one with whiter smoke being a Rb 57 as it produces two puffs of smoke (a function which supposedly makes it possible to fire from confined spaces).

Here's a slowed down video with the stills edited out. Looks like one of the tanks returning fire takes a direct front hit from another inf-AT weapon (at about 00:51).

https://twitter.com/theRightMikke/st...d6QHF13SaoROPg

Also saw a claims that the Russian unit was identified as a Battalion Tactical Group of the 6th Tank Regiment (90th Guards Tank Division) which is later to have continued advancing down the road towards the village of SKYBYN and there running into Ukrainian T-64 tanks, been subject to Ukrainian artillery after which the Russians turned around and retreated. Supposedly the defending units were from the UA 72nd Mech Brigade. Russian tanks claimed to be T-72As. The commander of the Russian 6th Tank Regiment is to have been killed.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Danspiun/...01295225495557

Seems like a decent scenario right there. Only, the game AI will probably do a better job at fighting than the actual Russian army...

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Originally Posted by wulfir (Post 851772)

Seems like a decent scenario right there. Only, the game AI will probably do a better job at fighting than the actual Russian army...

If you build it I will include it

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Just d'like to add some info about Ukrainian captured equipment on invaders side

Kozak Varta armoured cars with NLAW in DPR hands https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/co..._and_varta_as/

HMMWV also in DPR https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/co...aptured_hmmwv/

Sommetimes tanks switches sides two times like this Ukrainian T-64BV
https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/co..._captured_and/

BTR-4 with new owners
https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/co...ukranian_btr4/

And here photo from Volnovakha captured T-64 by Ukrainians

https://i.redd.it/37grixwsbsm81.jpg

And here video manual for Ukrainian ordinary soldiers how drive a T-72 :D
if you found them only scratched in drivable condition
https://youtu.be/Jp7L4MhRkTQ

MkV from Kharkiv from city centre square before this war hope he will survive destruction of the city and we can see that tank in future not so many of them still existing and take parts in all this wars since WWI

https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/co...ese_tanks_get/

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Originally Posted by blazejos (Post 851780)

MkV from Kharkiv from city centre square before this war hope he will survive destruction of the city and we can see that tank in future not so many of them still existing and take parts in all this wars since WWI

https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/co...ese_tanks_get/

https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/atta...1&d=1647177514

:)

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35 people have been killed after a Ukrainian military base, less than 15 miles from the Polish border, was targeted in a Russian airstrike, the governor of the Lviv region has said.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2gmEIrkVgc

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Originally Posted by DRG (Post 851773)

If you build it I will include it

Started to work on some stuff, what is the first free slot?

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Originally Posted by wulfir (Post 851788)

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Originally Posted by DRG (Post 851773)

If you build it I will include it

Started to work on some stuff, what is the first free slot?

Right now it's 443....

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Regarding the use of Ukrainian OOB Units:

061: T-84 Oplot
063: T-84 Oplot+
064: T-84 Oplot-M (aka BM Oplot)

In scenarios....

Wikipedia (i know, I know) says that ten T-84 Oplot were completed; while Laser Shark on Tanknet (https://www.tanknet.org/index.php?/t...omment=1583276) pointed out that at least three Oplot-BM were completed, being assigned as such:

1 x to USA for OPFOR
1 x for International Arms Expo Shows
1 x to Ukrainian Army.

Not sure if or where they're going to show up, though, but I suppose it would make sense to group them together with the other T-84s in a single company, and then attach it to some tank battalion.

I checked Ukrainian Wikipedia and found these two articles:

https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2...BE%D1%82%C2%BB
https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%91...BE%D1%82%C2%BB

Basically, Laser Shark was right:

Ukranian Wikipedia says:

The T-84 company took part in the military parade in 2003.

And this Ukrainian Site (https://www.ukrmilitary.com/2018/09/melnyk.html)

says

"Now these machines have been transferred to the 169th Desna Training Center to continue the cycle of operation, where everything possible will be squeezed out of them. The main end result, namely - a serviceable, reliable machine that will meet all the requirements of our tankers."

(169-й навчальний центр «Десна»)

I looked it up:

https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/169-%D...BD%D0%B0%C2%BB

Quote:

The 169th Desna Training Center named after Prince Yaroslav the Wise ( 169 NC , unit A0665) is a military unit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine specializing in the training of personnel for various branches of the Land Forces of Ukraine . It reports directly to the command of the ground forces. Located in the village of Desna, Chernihiv region .

If you look up Desna's location on a map... it's just north of Kiev, right along the line of the eastern pincer.

So it looks like the lone T-84 Oplot Company in Ukraine has probably already seen combat (and been wiped out) in fighting against the Eastern Pincer against Kiev.

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Thinking though, that had that been the case the Russians would have been releasing lots of photos of Ukraine's top of the line tanks destroyed and that hasn't happened

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Interesting video.
I don't know the exact units in it.
I'm assume the Ukrainian vehicle which is doing the shooting is some form of BTR, where the 2 (or 3?) Russian vehicles are...well the last one looks a lot like a BMP-1, but I leave that to the experts.

Regardless of what exactly they are I find a few interesting things about it, including how the what might be Russian troops taking cover behind the "BMP-1" and possibly having their legs and rest getting...retired. Just taking cover behind the IFV when there are buildings all around then feels a bit...it feels like the Russians are suffering not only from inexperienced young troops, but also for close to non existent officers on the field.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ4Auwi7_FA

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Yeah the lower legs of the section were clearly in view of the firing unit and that's not "a good thing"

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QW7Nfg4d9I

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Russia's latest warning to the West: Russia to target Western arms supply?

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Originally Posted by DRG (Post 851803)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QW7Nfg4d9I

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Russia's latest warning to the West: Russia to target Western arms supply?

I assume they are talking about hitting such convoys while inside Ukraine. Anything else would be suicidal.

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Yes, it would be. Hitting a convoy inside the borders of a NATO nation would escalate this in ways we can only imagine very quickly.

OTOH once they cross the border into Ukraine they are fair targets so. "convoys" of trucks should be "off the table"... individual trucks moving at night will probably be the New Normal

Though the way this has been going they are more likely to hit an aid convoy of diapers and formula instead of a weapons convoy

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https://nationalpost.com/news/world/...tins-kill-list

in part

Quote:

“NATO doesn’t want to create World War Three, but World War Three is on already. Do you think if Russia uses nuclear weapons the radiation will care who has a NATO passport or not? Do you think there will only be 2.5 million refugees leaving Ukraine? There will be many times more and it will be Europe’s problem. Do you think Putin will stop in Ukraine? He wants Poland, Ukraine and the Baltics at least.”

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The convoys enter at their own risk. Not saying the Russian won't attack them, but if you are entering a country in the middle of a war, it's a risk you run.

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Russia seems to struggle with night fighting. Probably do not have much in the way of dependable long range recon assets either. IIRC in Syria it took them something like 24 hours to mount an airstrike on a target - if the target was not static and had moved, yeah it became a problem.

Will they even be able to detect a convoy in the first place?

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Maybe people don't realize how far ahead of the curve the development team of Win SPMBT were/are by displaying the ascendancy of infantry over armor. The most recent fracas in Ukraine has mirrored the capabilities incredibly well. I play by myself, and mostly create Assault/Defend scenarios, or Advance defend. The defensive side rarely gets much heavy armor. Instead I rely on infantry to do the job. This reflects well what has happened during the past three weeks. So I have to express kudos for that level of detail. It really seems more of reality reflecting the game than the game reflecting vice versa.

I think the rise was displayed very well during the Yom Kippur War kit, but then Desert Storm and Iraq II kind of put the kabosh on what would really happen when armor is faced with a committed infantry.

I have to make my Assault scenarios even more unbalanced thn the 3/1 point sread because Defense is now almost an arcade setting. I know its a bit dicier than that in Ukraine, however, I also know that tanks are far more visible to ACAV cameras than are infantry squads in cover. It helps, too, that the AI is at least as competent as the Russian command.

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Originally Posted by carp (Post 851809)

Don't you think that's a bit rude? I don't think the A.I in this game is even close to the Russian command. Russian command would wish to be as good. As I see it they are closer to the easy difficulty setting of the AI in the game Command and Conquer Red Alert. And that's being polite.

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Real street battle footage Ukr BTR-4 vs Rus BMP-1

https://twitter.com/aldin_ww/status/...52707251322885

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Originally Posted by blazejos (Post 851811)

Real street battle footage Ukr BTR-4 vs Rus BMP-1

That's what Wdll posted earlier today ( 129 )

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I tried to be kind to the Russians. You know, piling on and all of that.

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all small pieces in a very large puzzle

https://www.independent.ie/world-new...-41446828.html

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‘They are lying to you’ – TV news editor interrupts live broadcast on Russian state TV with anti-war protest

https://www.france24.com/en/live-new...ukraine-crisis

Quote:

German WWII ghosts loom large in Ukraine crisis

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...das-parliament

Quote:

Like a good actor, Ukraine's Volodymyr Zelenskyy delivers drama and persuasion

...... on the 23rd anniversary of Poland joining the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (and thus becoming part of NATO’s eastern border with Ukraine), Zelenskyy addressed that nation’s parliament with very different language.

He reminded his next-door neighbours of their shared history and culture. “Together there are 90 million of us,” he said. “Together we can do anything, and it is a historical mission for Poland, and a historical mission for Ukraine, to be the leaders that together will pull Europe out of this abyss.”

"May you live in interesting times............"

....this does qualify as that

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Originally Posted by DRG (Post 851791)

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Originally Posted by wulfir (Post 851788)

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Originally Posted by DRG (Post 851773)

If you build it I will include it

Started to work on some stuff, what is the first free slot?

Right now it's 443....

443 shows as: Cleaning up the Farm 5/2006

523 on my end shows: The Long Night 7/89

Is 443 the last free slot?

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This is what my "virgin" game shows

That is what was released last year. Any variation is at your end

https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/atta...1&d=1647357191

There are also maps in 975-977
936
939
and others scattered here and there after the main body of maps but for the main block the next open slot is 443 and right now those two empty slots before that have maps that will be added in the next update

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Looks like I have not released 523 The Long Night 7/89 yet.

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Sorry my mix up I was thinking of scenarios # and not map #'s.

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Originally Posted by MarkSheppard (Post 851768)

...
The Agency also expresses its deep gratitude for the use of ZIL-IZO personnel, which has no analogues in the world, for the purposes of movement. In addition to the obvious comfort of the Russian military in the open body during the Ukrainian March frosts, the speed of the vehicle, as well as the bright aquamarine color of the body, allow the local territorial defense forces to effectively undergo training in the use of modern light weapons.

Of course, it concerns classic blue ZiL-130 dump trucks :D

https://twitter.com/NAZK_gov/status/...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

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Interesting and 'fair' from a French site.

https://lavoiedelepee.blogspot.com/

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Originally Posted by zovs66 (Post 851839)

Interesting and 'fair' from a French site.

https://lavoiedelepee.blogspot.com/

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Ukrainian anti-aircraft defense still well organized and increasingly dense low-layer defense (Manpads)

That is EXACTLY how a "no fly zone" should work. From the ground up by Ukrainian troops

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It doesn't get much into the military aspects, but I find it a very good interview worth watching.

I completely agree with him. NATO and the West should stop acting so timid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MgZQOkP1yM