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Well the Matrix was a pretty lame and predictable movie to begin with, so any sequals probably aren't going to be any better. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Fyron, Fyron, how can you say something like this?
The Matrix is the best movie ever, not because of the XFs, or filmaking, or acting, but because it made us think.
It came out in the Last year of the Last century, and quietly it managed to put into the mainstream its warning against brainwashing and media manipulation, it questioned our very way of life, it blew the whistled in the very same industry to which it belongs to.
Because, Fyron, in the end we are nothing more than batteries, powering a corporate world from where we can't escape. We work for them, they pay us, and we give them back our paycheck with profits. We are raised to be good citizens, to pay our taxes, to fuel their economy consuming their goods, to use credit cards with money that we don't even have yet, to fuel them even faster.

We are slaves, Fyron, a new kind of slave that work for 8 hours a day and get 4 weeks of vacation. We are sent to colleges to become better slaves, more profitable slaves, and thus better paid, we can even change the urban plantation in which we work, we can even quit and look for a better paying plantation, but we can't escape our master, this system created to enslave us for ever and ever. There is no hope. We need a Neo. Or....

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[ May 15, 2003, 16:26: Message edited by: Aloofi ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Aloofi, stop everything you are doing and watch "1984". Once you've done it, read the book. Then read the book again.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Man, a lot of people have recomended me to watch "1984". I have never seen it, I guess it belong to another generation, but I will get the book. Is the book better than the movie, as usually is?

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Only read the book, not as good as "Animal farm" though.

"All are created equal, but some are more equal than others..."

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Well the Matrix was a pretty lame and predictable movie to begin with, so any sequals probably aren't going to be any better.

OMG FRYON>..... Some one agrees with you about something on this forum http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

The movie was ok up to the middle... Then it was yea yea... cannot die... yea yea.... bad acting.... Ok lets end this...

Kind of like that Stargate movie with the Egyptian gods... Really good up to the point they released it was a scfi-movie and decided that things must go boom !

And all this time i thought I was the only one who did not like Matrix ( Actually I thought it ranked up there with Independence Day etc.... a good crack. But don't look too deep below the surface or you will be disappointed )

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">*sobs* and here I am hooked on the series, I like Stargate as much as I did B5.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ah!!! It's the end of the world! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Anyways.... the Matrix was not taken as what you claim it was by the general public Aloofi. In fact, you are the first person I have ever heard make such claims about the movie. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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uh, i like this system. it's a better system than most. and, while i think a lot of coorporations view there workers a bit like drone's, is that any worse, or better than the way a lot of worker's view there coorperation? change for the sake of change doesn't work. what and how would you replace it with?

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narf... wrong thread... i think that post should be in the iraq thread

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it's in responce to something said here.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, the book is much better, or I should say much deeper than the film. it is a bit like watching lord of the ring and reading the book. But 1984's music is really good.

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really you could cut and paste it there and no one would think it was out of context.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Four weeks? FOUR WEEEKS?!?!?!!

RRRAAARRGGHH!

(AE grows large and green, and starts throwing around tanks and sturdy buildings)

"ATARI_HULK ONLY GET TWO WEEKS! RRRARGH!"

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">But it's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD entertainment http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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I just got back from seeing Bruce Almighty. If you want to laugh this would be the movie to see this week...There were a couple parts I was laughing so hard I couldn't breathe, or my stomach was hurting too bad to breathe. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
It even inspired a sig change for me... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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The Matrix reloaded. Well what can I say, it was an interesting movie with a lot of kung fo fighting. Long drawn out fighting. More fighting than I would have thought possible.

Fun movie though, but not what I would pay to see again out side of my own home on DVD.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Four weeks? FOUR WEEEKS?!?!?!!

RRRAAARRGGHH!

(AE grows large and green, and starts throwing around tanks and sturdy buildings)

"ATARI_HULK ONLY GET TWO WEEKS! RRRARGH!"

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I can offer my depressing philosophy to this, but the Last time I did this I ruined the mood.

But what the hell, your right, you are all slaves, and allow me to tell you why.

You work at an unfulfilling job day after day, for just enough money to support your current needs, never earning enough to break free of the cycle that has become your mondain lives. When you think your ahead, it is but an illusion and one that is often more than not, short lived. You spend your lives stuck in this rut, oblivious to the fact that despite your best efforts, you may never escape it. And in the end, you will look back upon your life, and say to yourself 'gee, I wish I could have done more, played harder, lived life to its fullest, and spent more time with my family. Because in the end, that job that you have devoted your life to will can your *** without so much as a 'good job' leaving you to sit at you home, leased by for life, or as long as you can aford to pay the property tax, reflecting back upon your life and come to understand, that now, and only now in the twilight of it all, nothing really matters, and in a hundred years, all that you thought was important will have faded off into the dust leaving no trace of you or your accomplishments. In the end we all die, and on our journey to meet our faits, we all will learn things, and one can only hope that one of lessons of life will be that family matters, our children matter, our happyness matters, and being a slave to some coorperation for thirty or fourty years matters NOT. Live your life, not the life of a slave, but the life that you choose to live. And hopefuly in the end you can look back upon it all and know that you were not a slave to any one or anything. And then again we can dream can't we?

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i saw it as well.

The comment about swearing in french was funny.

And the chase was ummmmm..... fantastic..... as was the smith thing.

Funny I did not really like the first movie.... But I liked the second one.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hehe, I'm exactly the oposite, I didn't like the second one, but I love the first one. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

What I didn't like in Matrix Reloaded:

1- Martial arts.
It was lame. Unlike in the first movie in which a very careful work was done, in this one there were some mistakes, it felt like opera, like choreography. Most hits were not concentrated at the contact point, tecnique was poor, especially in the lower train (legs position) while doing upper train hits. (you can see this in Neo's fight with the program protecting the Oracle). Neo's and Morpheous's styles were good looking, but failed to concentrate their hits. Most other styles were rather poor.

2-Computer Animation.
This one was the movie killer for me. Computer Generated characters were use in close up takes, showing openly that they were not real. The worst scene was the fight between Neo and Agent Smith. about half way into the scene Neo becomes a CG character, and it pushed me completely out of the movie, it was so awful that it felt like there was somebody else fighting in there! Also of notice is the scene of Neo flying. I wonder why they dare to use CG characters in close ups. That brakes completely with the principle of special effects of trying to make believe the audience that its real. On the other hand, the free way scene have a many CG cars and trucks, and with the exception of the 2 trucks that crash at the end, you can't tell which one is real and which one is not. This is because unanimated objects can be made very crediable with computers, but living things, especially humans, can not. They didn't even use photo mapping like in Lords of the Rings with the Gollum character. Basicly, the effectes were not bad, but they were poorly used, so the blame is completely on the Wachoski brothers, not the companies making the effects.

3- The message.
The anti-media, anti corporative message is still there, but it took me 2 times watching the movie to see it. Why? Because now their message is hidden below an extra layer of misiformation. Because now the Matrix is a major movie, part of the stablishment, a big buck maker, unlike the first one, that was a risky uber-indie filmed in Australia and an unexpected box office hit. Still, you can dig out the message by the names of characters, ships, the city, by some lines said mostly by supporting characters (unlike in the first one) and by many visual clues, which is actually an improvement from the first one, in which most info was spoken by the main characters.

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Ying / Yang http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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hm? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Reloaded gave a lot of bang for the buck; but somehow I ended up more interested in X2. Different stories/genres/whatever, perhaps, but for some reason there was more heart in X2. Did anyone notice after a while that the outlaw programs/Smith/whoever began emoting more than the humans did? Interesting contrast.

zen

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Matrix Reloaded..
*Rollo yawns.

I can't make up my mind whether it was more boring or silly. At any rate it was both.

The first one was groundbreaking. This one is just bad.

Rollo

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Well, its hard not to see Messages in movies these days. I did got a bit miff at the slam against Bush jr. There was a montague of evil pictures of our history, and right after a large picture of Hitler, there was a large one of Bush jr. It is one thing to disagree with someone, but it is quite another to compare Bush to Hitler (of course that is how I take it, and once again I am biased).

As someone else said, X2 was better.

Oh, that new Sean Connery movie looks great, the League of Extordanry Gentlemen. Is that a spin-off of something else, reminded me of the old Avengers.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's based on a comic book of the same name by Alan Moore (The Watchmen, Swamp Thing, to name a few).

Apparently they're already planning a sequal for it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

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Well all this talk of blockbusters that bust...

I decided to watch a real movie.

So I popped Godfather 1 in the dvd.

3 hours later. I went Wow what a movie.

( IT is only the 3rd time I have seen it )

Tonight will be Part 2.

(which is my fav of the series )

I also noticed that Millers Crossing just came out on DVD so I will have to pick that one up.

It was a fantastic movie and will sit nicely with the Ganster collection.

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I don't like ganster movies.
They glorify criminal behavior, stealing, greed, capitalism, anti-patriotism, individualism, and the killing of their own people.
Ganster movies are all about money, in the worst possible sense.
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*agrees with aloofi*

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I have just seen Hollywood Homocide and I have to admit althought it is a slow kinda boring movie that seems to lack something, it was an ok movie that would make a great TV series.

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Do you think The Hulk is going to be good?

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think it will be. I'll post here what I thought of it when I see it.

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Hey it has Sam Elliot in it, it has got to be good. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ June 18, 2003, 04:16: Message edited by: CNCRaymond ]

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i have yet to see matrix reloaded! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

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Just went and saw the Hulk yesterday afternoon.

Minor spoilers alert! (Nothing too big though)

It was a decent movie. It took too long to progress to the point where Bruce becomes the Hulk. One thing I didn't really care for is the use of split screens. I didn't mind the fact that they did this so much, it's just that it made it a little bit harder to follow when you're trying to see what's going on in 3 or 4 different parts of the screen. Sometimes they were just different angle shots of the same scene which wasn't bad but others were completely different scenes that you had to pay attention to in order to be able to follow the story line.

All in all I give it a 3 1/2 out of 5 stars. The acting from almost every person involved - most notably Jennifer Connelly, and Eric Bane - was done realitively well which made the movie more enjoyable. All to often you get movies like this with poor acting that ruins what would be a good movie.

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I saw Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle Last night.

It was OK. Some ridiculously impossible action scenes. Lots of scenes of the girls in skimpy outfits. Not much of a story. The girls are all giggling and being silly a lot, and every so often beat up bad guys with their martial arts. Matrix-like fight scenes with time freezing, jumping, flipping, and slow-motion bullets, etc. Cameron Diaz has a scary-looking smile that's too stretched out horizontally, that I don't find very attractive. Drew Barrymore I think is the cutest, although she's not very convincing in trying to be a bad tough girl. Lucy Liu, she seems to be smartest and most skilled of all of them. Demi Moore looks a lot younger than 40, and she is evil and dangerous. Anyway, don't see this movie if you're looking for a story, it's just a long sequence of girls laughing, dancing, and fighting, over and over.

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How many people here plan to see Terminator 3. The previews look great. Plus the Last 2 are all time Favorites of mine

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Rags- I think that was the subtle comic book panel "stylized" integration into the movie. I actually kind of liked it, but of course I grew up with comic books. It was something different Ang Lee threw in.

My favorite part was the Stan Lee and Lou Ferigno cameo in the beginning of the movie (Security guards). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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I really did not like the Hulk. The cgi effect just didn't look real enough. I would have to agree with the review though, 3.5 our of 5.

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I am more of the type to check out new movies than to follow movies that portray something familiar.
Though I might see Terminator 3 I am looking forward to Pirates of the Carribean http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I will definitely see Terminator 3. Can't wait to see Schwarzenegger back as the invincible cyborg... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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just rewatched canadian bacon

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I just came back from watching Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines.

It was good. Very good. As good as the Last two. I will definitely go see it again. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

*** WARNING: SPOILERS ***
So... Judgment Day was not averted because of the events of T2. It was only delayed. Now, T-X has been sent back in time to kill John Conner and his future lieutenants, and another T-800 sent back to protect him. T-X is beautiful, very beautiful, I like her! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif She is also a very dangerous and efficient killing machine, more advanced than the T-1000, with new abilities. Lots of destruction, explosions, and wrecked cars and buildings, as T-X and T-800 battle each other. The scary thing is that the story of Skynet taking over computers, AI- controlled military drones, and the nuclear missiles sounds disturbingly plausible. The surprise ending was rather dark and not very happy... I wonder if they will make a T4?

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and i think i forgot...Mousehunt!
really weird and funny. a good movie. you could even cut some peices out and it would still be a good movie on what's left. see it.

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Tomb Raider II: The Cradle of Life

***Warning: Spoilers***
That Lara Croft character is so unrealistically skilled at everything. Is there anything that Lara Croft COULDN'T do super well? She's an expert in hand-to-hand combat and is good with all sorts of weapons. She's an excellent shot with guns. She can drive all sorts of vehicles. She can ride horses, do stunts with a motorcycle, do all sorts of acrobatics, skydive off skyscrapers, and know everything about archaelogy, speak 10 different Languages, have powerful friends in every country of the world, and be super smart at solving ancient archaelogical puzzles. In addition, she's also incredibly rich. For some reason, she has to go to all sorts of locations in different countries like Khazistan, China, Hong Kong, Kenya, Greece, etc. It's similar to a James Bond movie in which the main character is super good at absolutely everything and travels around from location to location throughout the movie.

The story doesn't make a whole lot of sense. The bad guy specializes in creating genetically engineered super-diseases, and selling them to rich criminals around the world. He doesn't care what these guys use the diseases for, or who dies from them; he just wants money. Well, there's an ancient artifact called "Pandora's Box" which, for some reason, contains a deadly, very contagious disease for which there is no possible cure. The bad guy's goal is to find the box, get the disease, and sell it to different criminal guys for $100 million dollars from each person. Apparently, these guys don't care if everybody in the world dies, including themselves! There's no explaination as to why this Pandora's box exists, or why there's a disease it in, or anything like that.

Anyway, Lara finds the magic orb that is the map to finding Pandora's box, but the bad guys take it away from her, and she has to go and get it back, and there's lots of fighting and shooting and stuff, and then finally when she gets the orb back and find out where the box is, she goes there, the bad guys also find out and go there, there's more fighting and stuff, and finally Lara gets the box, everybody else dies, and in the end she decides to leave the box in its secret hiding place.

Some fancy technology Lara has. She's in China taking digital images of the orb, which has marking on it, and she's talking to the computer guy back at her mansion in England, sending the images to him, and on the computer at the mansion, the guy instantly maps the pictures onto a rotation 3-D model of the sphere to decode it. By the way, it seems that there's only 3 people who live in the huge "Croft Manor". There's Lara, who's out traveling and adventuring most of the time, the very smart computer geek guy, and "super butler". He's "super butler" because apparently he single-handedly takes care of the entire mansion and grounds of the manor, cutting the grass, cleaning everything, looking after the whole place, anytime Lara isn't beating him up with a stick. I guess there's only 2 guys that live in the manor, because whoever works for Lara usually ends up getting killed by her enemies, or at least gets themselves into extreme danger.

Anyway, it was OK. I don't like Angelina Jolie that much; I don't find her attractive, even though most of the guys I talk to do think she's cute. Why does she have such big lips?

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I just came back from T3. Not very good IMO. It certainly didn't give that totally blown away feeling that T2 gave.

Of the movies that I recently saw I can only recommend Charlies Angles. Now that was just pure fun to watch.

Rollo

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just watched pirates .

Fun movie... Good for the whole family.

Johnny Dep what ever he plays. He plays it well

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The Medallion

It was pretty good. I try to see every Jackie Chan movie that comes out, and this one was better than the Tuxedo. But Shanghai Knights was better than this one.

*** Warning: Spoilers ***
This movie was unusual for a Jackie Chan movie in that it had supernatural stuff in it. The ancient magic medallion has the power to bring dead people back to life and make them immortal. Jackie's character is a Hong Kong police officer, and he drowns when the bad guys trap him in a shipping container and drop him in the ocean. But he is brought back to life by the medallion, and now he can jump really high, survive big falls, run really fast, get shot and still be OK, and so on. Well, the bad guy knows about the magic medallion, and he gets half of it, and gets the same powers, and of course they have to have a big fight in the end. Like all Jackie Chan movies, this one is not a serious movie. There's all sorts of rather silly stuff in there. Some of it's not very funny - like his incompetent partner - but there are lots of other stuff that is. Some nice fights, but they aren't as long or complex as they used to be in his older movies.
**** End of Spoilers ***

Has anybody seen Shaolin Soccer? I have no idea what it's about; I just saw the poster of the two kung-fu type people kicking a soccer ball. Is this movie any good?

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Shaolin Soccer was *the* Hong Kong blockbuster of 2001. This is another Stephen Chow vehicle, and for those who don't know him, this means silly slapstick comedy.

The story is about a group of Shaolin disciples who find that their martial arts abillities are useless in the modern world. Then however, they get the idea of setting up a soccer team and use their martial arts abilities to kick everyone's ***.

So Stephen Chow uses his Iron Leg kungfu to kick the ball to stratospheric heights at ballistic missile speeds, the goalkeeper uses 'magic fingers" kungfu to cover the entire goal area simultaneously, the fatty with flying kungfu sails over the entire football pitch etc.

Some people hate Stephen Chow's stuff, some people love them. I happen to have a weakness for them myself, but I admit that this is probably around the lowest forms of entertainment there is. Also, unless you speak Cantonese, many of the gags will probably go right by your head.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I just watch T3 myself. It looked very cheap in my opinion. The T1000 in T2 had a lot of very cool effects and scenes, and the cinematography in general was much, much better than T3. T3 also reuses too many gags and scenes from T2. A really disappointing movie that fails to live up to T2 in any way.

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well a weekend of football and movies.

My wifes football team won their league and playoffs:)

Movies for the weekend

House of 1000 corpes -- The Rob zombie horror flick.... It was ok... ( if you like horror movies then you will like it ) Jeepers Creepers was a little more moodier .

Signs - Liked it. Good theme and good acting. Very good mood settings.

Brotherhood of the Wolf. - That movie was great. The Last two movies that I have seen from France were fantastic. I wish i could listen fluent french... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif As I had to follow the subtitles ( i know a bit of french but it is french canadian not over the pond french )

And I re watched Amores Perros