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Atrocities April 16th, 2003 04:11 AM

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I have the 100th post of this thread. Ha ha.

narf poit chez BOOM April 16th, 2003 06:39 AM

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ok, the oposite of moving +x is moving -x, right? xyz coordinates. so, if you can't move +x, reducing this to the coordinate system itself, that means that you can't move +x becuase the x dimension does not exist. therefore you can't move -x. so, in order to move +x, you must have dimension x, which means that you must be able to move -x. fyron, you still interested?

Ruatha April 16th, 2003 09:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
How about this:
What is the opposite to a Sony DVD Player.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hmm, something that is cheap and can record stuff.
A VHS recorder?

Haven't treid any Sony DVD players but just for the sake of the argument:
Something that is nice to look upon, can keep you occupied for a long time, doesn't need to be plugged into an electricity socket. Doesn't need a TV or any other connected electrical devices to function. Does not need to be fed with round discs.
Perhaps my wife?

(I'm not against DVD's, I like them, just wanted to argue a bit) (This is the room for arguments, right? No, Yes, No , Yes, An argument is simply a contradiction, right! No!, Yes...)

Atrocities April 16th, 2003 09:59 AM

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Quote:

Two fish are in a tank. One says to the other, “How do you drive this thing?”
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The other fish looks over and sighs; "You have been hanging around President Bush far too long. This is a water tank, not a TANK."

(Sorry, I could not help it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif George is great, and I support him, but it is a lot of fun to poke fun occationally.)

Fyron April 16th, 2003 10:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
ok, the oposite of moving +x is moving -x, right? xyz coordinates. so, if you can't move +x, reducing this to the coordinate system itself, that means that you can't move +x becuase the x dimension does not exist. therefore you can't move -x. so, in order to move +x, you must have dimension x, which means that you must be able to move -x. fyron, you still interested?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Umm... I'm not following the logic of that paragraph. If you have an xyz coordinate grid, or even an xy coordinate plane (or just a x number line), then you can move in x and -x directions. Why do you say you can't? Where do you get the x dimension does not exist? It must exist if you have xyz coordinate grid...

narf poit chez BOOM April 16th, 2003 10:45 AM

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well, the only way to eliminate +x movement is to eliminate the whole x dimension. a 'things can't exist without there oposite' kind of thing.

Kamog April 16th, 2003 11:05 AM

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What is the opposite of 2? Is it -2 or is it 1/2, or is it something else?
What is the opposite of 0? Is it 1, or is it infinity, or something else?

Katchoo April 16th, 2003 05:06 PM

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In a binary world, the opposite of Zero would be One.

*snaping fingers and singing* One, is the loneliest number...*snap*snap*

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

PS, Fyron thinks the Terminator movies were crappy. Who's up for a wedgie? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

David E. Gervais April 16th, 2003 06:21 PM

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If 'Yes' is the opposite of 'No' what is the opposite of Maybe? (Perhaps?) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

If 'Closed' is the opposite of 'Open' what is the opposite of a Wink? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

If 'Up' is the opposite of 'Down' what is the opposite of Middle? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

If 'Inner' is the opposite of 'Outer' what is the opposite of Between? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

If 'Heaven' is the opposite of 'Hell' what is the opposite of Earth? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

...this has been pure nonsense brought to you one question at a time!

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Ruatha April 16th, 2003 07:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by David E. Gervais:


If 'Up' is the opposite of 'Down' what is the opposite of Middle? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif


<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Lateral.
(Is that the right english word? Is it the same as in latin?)

Fyron April 16th, 2003 07:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
well, the only way to eliminate +x movement is to eliminate the whole x dimension. a 'things can't exist without there oposite' kind of thing.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You can have only the set of natural numbers, in which case you have the positive x direction, but not the negative. And why is -x the opposite of x? Why isn't 1/x its opposite? Or -1/x?

narf poit chez BOOM April 16th, 2003 11:41 PM

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you looked to much at the math. -x is the opposite of +x becuase they oppose each other.

narf poit chez BOOM April 16th, 2003 11:44 PM

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*sneaks up behind katchoo with the 5000th post day mallot...*
*WHAM!*

Fyron April 17th, 2003 12:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
you looked to much at the math. -x is the opposite of +x becuase they oppose each other.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I looked to much at the math? Umm... looking at the math is the only possible way to compare numbers and variables of numbers...

Cyrien April 17th, 2003 01:00 AM

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Math the only way to look at numbers and number comparisons, etc? It surely isn't. One can use logic systems, which while related to math are most assuredly not math.

Fyron April 17th, 2003 01:20 AM

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Logical evaluation of number systems is a type of math, actually. It is called Discrete Mathematics.

Cyrien April 17th, 2003 01:34 AM

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Discrete Mathematics is a method of combining logical method and problem solving with mathematical equations. It is not all inclusive of Logical comparisons of numbers and other areas.

Even if it where I could still show that your original statement:
Quote:

I looked to much at the math? Umm... looking at the math is the only possible way to compare numbers and variables of numbers
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">is false by simply making up a nonsensical way of comparing numbers and variables. It would make no sense and have no meaning but it would still be a way it could be done.

Fyron April 17th, 2003 01:47 AM

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My statement was not a logical proof. It was not all-inclusive. I did not bother ruling out nonsense methods that do not give any useable results because there was never a reason to do so, and there still is not. So, the method of disproving it by finding one possible way in which it does not hold is not applicable.

[ April 17, 2003, 00:48: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

David E. Gervais April 17th, 2003 01:52 AM

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The opposite of Zero is Absolute Zero!

How's that for nonsense reduced to perfection?

Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

narf poit chez BOOM April 17th, 2003 02:32 AM

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i wasn't speaking of the math, i was speaking of the actual movement.

Katchoo April 17th, 2003 04:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Cyrien:
Discrete Mathematics is a method of combining logical method and problem solving with mathematical equations. It is not all inclusive of Logical comparisons of numbers and other areas.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Gha?

[quote]Even if it where I could still show that your original statement:
Quote:

I looked to much at the math? Umm... looking at the math is the only possible way to compare numbers and variables of numbers
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Fuh?

Quote:

is false by simply making up a nonsensical way of comparing numbers and variables. It would make no sense and have no meaning but it would still be a way it could be done.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Eh... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

Hmmm... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Err... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif

I agree. Anyone wanna bounce a ball?

*boing*boing*

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Kamog April 17th, 2003 06:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Katchoo:
I agree. Anyone wanna bounce a ball?

*boing*boing*

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What's the opposite of a ball? A cube?

Fyron April 17th, 2003 06:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
i wasn't speaking of the math, i was speaking of the actual movement.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What movement? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

narf poit chez BOOM April 17th, 2003 10:01 AM

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me. you. me going one way. you not moving. we solved unstopable force and imoveable object.
*falls over from exertion*
well, maybe not.
anyway, i was talking about +x movement and -x movement. you seem to be talking about +x math and -x math. i was more talking about concepts. moving one way, moving oposite way. must have something to move on. no move one way, no move oposite way. narf's brain tired.
*starts bouncing the ball*
weeeee!!

Fyron April 17th, 2003 10:04 AM

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Movement is directly related to mathematics in every regard. Movement in the x or -x direction is based off of physical formulae, which are indeed mathematics. A coordinate system is 100% arbitrary to begin with, so we can assign it to your path of movement however we want to. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Atrocities:
Can we rename this thread to something else? My post count hasn't been discussed in a while... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ April 17, 2003, 09:05: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Fyron April 17th, 2003 10:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Aloofi:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Atrocities:
Yes, how amazing! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, how amazing, with those short repetive/empty/spamming Posts.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey, I just noticed you accused me of spamming... what do you think that post was? Huh? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif Reminds me of a pot and kettle and the color black... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

narf poit chez BOOM April 17th, 2003 10:06 AM

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yes, but you can't move one way unless you can move another. 0,1 0,1 math.
*ooh, like ball*

Fyron April 17th, 2003 10:22 AM

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Umm... what is your point?

Actually, if a wall is closing in behind you, you can't move back, only forward. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

narf poit chez BOOM April 17th, 2003 10:32 AM

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strength. go boom. no wall.
and my point is that everything has to have an oposite.

David E. Gervais April 17th, 2003 12:51 PM

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Fyron, this thread has been running for 7 days and it started with (actually the second post) you making your 5000'th post. You're now at 5180+ Posts.

WoW!, It's worth repeating WOW! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

That's an average of 25+ Posts per day. You are not only the ruler of the world, you're crusing at warp 10!

I'm impressed, and a wee bit jealous! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif (..and to think the 7th day is not over yet!)

Have a Great Day, Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Fyron April 17th, 2003 07:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
strength. go boom. no wall.
and my point is that everything has to have an oposite.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, and your point is wrong. Nearly everything in existence does not have an opposite.

ZeroAdunn April 17th, 2003 10:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
strength. go boom. no wall.
and my point is that everything has to have an oposite.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, and your point is wrong. Nearly everything in existence does not have an opposite.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You are even more wrong fyron, you see, everything is its own oposite, why, just look at cats.....

ZeroAdunn April 17th, 2003 10:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by David E. Gervais:
Fyron, this thread has been running for 7 days and it started with (actually the second post) you making your 5000'th post. You're now at 5180+ Posts.

WoW!, It's worth repeating WOW! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

That's an average of 25+ Posts per day. You are not only the ruler of the world, you're crusing at warp 10!

I'm impressed, and a wee bit jealous! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif (..and to think the 7th day is not over yet!)

Have a Great Day, Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Did I miss the meeting when it was declared we were going to praise people for being wind bags? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Seriously though, I would ask for a muzzle, but that wouldn't stop him from typing....

Fyron April 17th, 2003 10:53 PM

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I am in no way a windbag. I have had a lot of answers to questions asked on Shrapnel, and answered them. This doesn't make me a windbag.

Cyrien April 17th, 2003 11:36 PM

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wind·bag
n.
The flexible air-filled chamber of a bagpipe or similar instrument.
Slang. A talkative person who communicates nothing of substance or interest.

I don't think Fyron fits in there for the most part. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

I haven't actually seen him for myself though so I suppose he might be a sentient flexible air-filled chamber of a bagpipe or similar instrument. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

narf poit chez BOOM April 18th, 2003 04:18 AM

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you havn't proven me wrong. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
and i think i have come up with oposites that wouldn't exist without each other. are we doing more than going in circles, though?

Fyron April 18th, 2003 05:19 AM

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I never said there are no opposites that would not exist without each other. But your point was that everything that exists must have an opposite. This is what I have argued is wrong. There are many things out there without opposites, and they exist just fine.

narf poit chez BOOM April 18th, 2003 09:08 AM

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i came up with one for a clock:)
but i don't think this is going anywhere. we've started to repeat ourselves.

Fyron April 18th, 2003 09:53 AM

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Yeah... I already showed how your argument for an opposite to a clock was invalid...

narf poit chez BOOM April 18th, 2003 10:12 AM

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where?

[ April 18, 2003, 09:13: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

Fyron April 18th, 2003 10:14 AM

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Read back in the thread. I posted counters to every argument posted for the existence of a clock's opposite.

narf poit chez BOOM April 18th, 2003 11:09 PM

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Quote:

My arguments have had far fewer holes in them than those arguing for an anti-clock, actually. [Wink]

Your point about something useless being the opposite of something useful does not mean that all useful things actually have something that is the opposite of them. In fact, almost none of them do. Only a very small range of objects/ideas/concepts actually have an opposite. You have yet to prove that there is anything that could be the opposite of a clock (even with a narrower definition of what a clock is).
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">that was your Last post on the clock.
Quote:

it's an anti-matter device that never lets any clock run and always gives incorrect time.
unless you want the oposite of a single clock, in which case it only has to never let that clock run.
and for most of this, theoretical is as good as were gonna get.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">and that's my Last post on the clock and i think i met all the requirements.

[ April 18, 2003, 22:11: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

Fyron April 19th, 2003 12:21 AM

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Yes, and your Last post simply rehashed statements I had already disproven, so there was no need to repost the same things again.

Fyron April 19th, 2003 08:42 PM

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Quote:

Not that I can with 100% certainty state this, but I have some dault as to if such an anti-matter anti-clock device actually exists...
What is the theoretical background that indicates that it does exist.
Is it based upon observations or is it somekind of mathematical theory that states that it must exist in order to let ordinary clock's exist??
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No. Anti-matter does not have to exist for matter to exist. Any specific matter item does not have to have an anti-matter equivalent to exist. Take your computer for an example. For an AM comp to have to exist for it to exist, then there would have to be AM humans that performed all of the exact same historical actions as us matter humans. They would have to have evolved in the same way, had all the same achievements at the same exact time, etc. This is of course so improbable to have happened that we can say with certainty that it could never have happened. So, this is why a matter item does not have to have an AM equivalent to exist. AM is not some mystical opposing force in the universe to matter. It is simply a theoretical class of particles that have opposing charges and spins to the equivalent matter particles.

TerranC April 20th, 2003 12:09 AM

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I'd like to know how come that every thread started by fyron or every thread that was started that metioned fyron or were about fyron turns into a scientific/political/religious/philosophical discussion, and fyron gets to add another 500 Posts to his already 5000-strong Posts. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Edit: Darn "<>"s.

[ April 19, 2003, 23:10: Message edited by: TerranC ]

Raging Deadstar April 20th, 2003 01:05 AM

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As this is a post celebration thread i thought i would grace you all with my 500TH POST! Now if someone kidnaps fyron i only need 4726 Posts to surpass him http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Ruatha April 20th, 2003 01:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
My arguments have had far fewer holes in them than those arguing for an anti-clock, actually. [Wink]

Your point about something useless being the opposite of something useful does not mean that all useful things actually have something that is the opposite of them. In fact, almost none of them do. Only a very small range of objects/ideas/concepts actually have an opposite. You have yet to prove that there is anything that could be the opposite of a clock (even with a narrower definition of what a clock is).

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">that was your Last post on the clock.
Quote:

it's an anti-matter device that never lets any clock run and always gives incorrect time.
unless you want the oposite of a single clock, in which case it only has to never let that clock run.
and for most of this, theoretical is as good as were gonna get.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">and that's my Last post on the clock and i think i met all the requirements.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not that I can with 100% certainty state this, but I have some dault as to if such an anti-matter anti-clock device actually exists...
What is the theoretical background that indicates that it does exist.
Is it based upon observations or is it somekind of mathematical theory that states that it must exist in order to let ordinary clock's exist??

[ April 19, 2003, 12:12: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

David E. Gervais April 20th, 2003 01:59 AM

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..speaking about # of Posts...

Shrapnel Forums snapshot:

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I think Aaron must be considered a God at shrapnel http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Cheers!

Raging Deadstar April 20th, 2003 10:35 PM

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It is true! Terran C speaks the truth Lol

Nah Fyron's just very strongly opinionated, that or he doesn't suffer fools gladly http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Fyron April 21st, 2003 05:13 AM

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Quote:

I'd like to know how come that every thread started by fyron or every thread that was started that metioned fyron or were about fyron turns into a scientific/political/religious/philosophical discussion, and fyron gets to add another 500 Posts to his already 5000-strong Posts.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Its a conspiracy.

Quote:

Nah Fyron's just very strongly opinionated, that or he doesn't suffer fools gladly http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Or he just likes debating stuff...


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