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Re: KingMaker - let the Ascension War commence!

Zeldor has asked me for a list of all capitals. At one point I did say I would have Llamabeast post the map file, which contains that information. Apparently he got busy around turn 40 or when ever I asked him to post it because it is still not up(according to Zeldor).

The only person with the FINAL map file is LLamabeast as he did the final tweaks to the map AND he incorporated my own changes I made after the restart, such as a special start for Lanka.

I do have a list of 59 capitals, but it is obviously not complete. And I do not want to post an incomplete list. And I may even have changed a couple of starting provinces on my list to make room to add more starting provinces which i did after the restart.

I will email llamabeast and ask that he post the map file.

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Re: KingMaker - let the Ascension War commence!

Only bad news, so I'm not writing anything :)

P.S. How are we going with holiday hosting schedule?

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Score graphs show LA Agartha with 176 provinces, nearly 100 more than his socalled rival ea niefelheim. What bad news could there possibly be? Was one of your globals dispelled?

As an aside I am happy to see my capable sub has finished mopping up LA Marignon. Ruin's empire has expanded by 9 provinces since my departure. Good job Frank.

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Originally Posted by Zeldor (Post 661348)

P.S. How are we going with holiday hosting schedule?

Yeah, we need more time. Christmas, New Year, Grandma's visit, all the preparations etc.
Here is my proposal:

today's hosting - 21.12
next one - 28.12
another one - 04.01
back to 3 days interval
:)

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I think we should just turn off timer after that turn and put it back on 2nd January, leaving just quickhost on between. One week of break will surely do good for everyone.

Xietor:

Evil Niefel took over my Forge :(

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i postponed the next turn for 4 days, if you need more delays please inform me

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This thread is so much quieter without Xietor riling everyone up :(

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Originally Posted by rdonj (Post 661853)

This thread is so much quieter without Xietor riling everyone up :(

Heh. All threads are much quieter without Xietor :)

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Even when he is no longer playing in the game any more he still posts the most. :)

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as only half the players have sent their turns, i postpone another 48 hours.

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Llamaserver is down and not accepting turns, so thanks for postpone. I am going out and I have no idea if turns will be accepted when server goes up.

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I was about to do mine and send it in, but am very glad for the additional delay.

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LlamaServer broken? I don't think it is, is it? Actually I'm fairly sure it's fine.

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Huh, why the next postpone? I don't think that those that didn't play their turn would do it otherwise.

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Was that another postpone or did the server just fail to turn over?

I would propose raising the warning interval from 8 hrs to 12 hrs, which is what Preponderance is using.

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I just checked shortly before hosting and saw that LA Agartha was still missing, so i posphoned a bit more. But as LA Agartha is now whining for hosting, i made it host. (As the only other bigger Nation La Man has staled twice in the last 3 turns, i assume he does not mind)

I also increased the warning to 12 hours

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I am not whining :) Simply asking. I had my turn submitted just few mins before hosting, forgot about it earlier.

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I propose that we scale back the turn and force Zeldor to stale :).

Seriously - I have to assume that Zeldor is now sieging enough castles to win the game. I just lost a massive army failing to conquer Bandar Log - can we get enough forces together to hold him out of them all?

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Am I? I am simply making sure someone else does not win faster, so I have time to do my job :)

And I agree - your army on BL was impressive. It's hard to believe you lost with that.

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Yep, Zeldor is sieging two of my castles now.

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Can I ask for a delay for this game? It looks like most people haven't come back from the holidays yet, and we want to make sure that Zeldor at least breaks a little sweat when he wins next turn :D

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posphoned for 1 day, protests and queries for further delay please per PM

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Thanks, I am happy for 1 more day too :)

P.S. It's a bit sad that there are no visible VPs, it would be more fair.

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Quote:

Powers of the universe did sire a son...
He was baptized by fire, water, earth, and sky...
From darkness, he rose up in triumph
To ascend the throne of light,
And he alone shall ever be known
As the King of Kings...

I oficially announce that I managed to conquer enough VPs to win the game. All hail LA Agartha!

I have following VPs [so llamabeast can check it, or Hadrian]: [sorted by conquer time]
01. LA Agartha [556]
02. MA Caelum [256]
03. EA Caelum [641]
04. MA Atlantis [779]
05. MA Ashdod [743]
06. EA Yomi [792]
07. EA T'ien Ch'i [96]
08. EA Marverni [367]
09. LA Pangea [866]
10. MA ARcoscephale [481]
11. LA Patala [425]
12. EA Atlantis [824]
13. MA R'lyeh [748]
14. EA C'tis [549]
15. LA Marignon [543]
16. MA Ermor [466]

I had 11 VPs last turn, I teleported on 8 capitals and got 5 of them that turn. Should have got 1 more, but those tarts love to go mad.

I will attach my turn file soon, when it's all confirmed :)

Thanks everyone! :)

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Congratulations Zeldor! I guess Kauthauga (the Utgardian monolith) really was just a big rock. Our religious scholars will look into this, but in the meantime, all hail the king!

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Thank god, and GG Zeldor! <3

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I made it to the end! Well, almost...went AI this turn...

Congrats Zeldor!

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Indeed, good job. You certainly earned it.

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It would be interesting to see the scoreboards for this game, or if someone shared their analysis of why the game went as it did.

Winning against 58 other players can't be a small feat, be it one performed by the winner or his kingmakers ;)

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I am surely going to write some AAR. But it will take some time to make screenshots, look at old turns etc. I can also pack all my turns files, if it can be done easily, so everybody could take a look.

General history of my nation:
- I got good borders through diplomacy, about 25 provs without fighting
- I had early fights with MA Atlantis, let's call it a draw
- I got enough peace to get really good gem income and get a lead with research, even with Drain 2
- my first war [with MA Caelum] started around turn 25-30, when I already had Tomb Oracles
- I put Forge of the Ancients up for 2 turns [dispeled it myself to not get too much attention] and forged 90% of artifacts
- there were some possible plans to attack Helheim, but I had MA Atlantis behind me and I had no idea what to expect from him, so he became my target
- MA Atlantis was winning with LA Pangaea, so finishing off LA Pan was an obvious choice, after MA Atlantis was killed [and LA Pan had 3 caps]
- with the change of Helheim player and dom spread started by previous one, my plan to attack him became real
- war with Helheim was very swift - there was no resistance, so I grabbed EA TC cap without problem, also most of his lands [with the help of my ally TNN]
- meanwhile I conquered EA Marverni from MA Arco [that went AI]
- plans to storm EA Helheim cap were postponed by Mictlan going AI [probably because of that armageddon spam?], I shifted my forces to grab as much Mictlan land as possible, before Lanka does it
- and after that I decided that it's good time to try teleport grab remaining VPs, so I took my chances and it worked

I also got gem donations from various nations - more details in coming [tomorrow] Thank You post :)

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Congratulations Zeldor!

Perfect timing!

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Didn't I predict somewhere that no one would win Kingmaker? Looks like I was wrong :D

Congrats to everyone who managed to survive until the end, it's too bad I couldn't join that group :happy:

And it ends right as I go back to school too. It's definitely incredible timing--bit late for a Christmas miracle though ;) (or Generic Winter Holiday Act of Incredible Improbability, for those of you who like to be politically correct :p)

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Congratulations Zeldor! Well Done!

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Well done Zeldor. I never could have managed such a large empire so I am glad my ally won the game.

I now realise how powerful raiding glamoured Ri's and Sidhe lords can be. I had about 30 fully kitted out and only lost about 3-4 the entire game due to leech's or drain lifes.

My god was heavily horror marked most of the game. Luckily she managed to kill about 50 horrors including 4 doom horrors (2 in one turn). High MR was the key to her continued survival.

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My first war was with Pythium. That went swimmingly, about as well as could be expected.

My second war was with Agartha - and I never really recovered. I made a huge number of significant mistakes that cost me several air jarls - and once I was in it that deep, I certainly couldn't afford to pull out without a win, and I lost more giants, equipment, and jarls. This invasion was a major mistake any way you slice it, but I might have recovered if not for some almost comical errors (I kept optimizing my research *before* setting units to forge, for example.)

As a side project, I invaded some ocean positions - and at the same time I fought a fairly disastrous war with Bandar Log. In theory, this could've led to my victory, as it enabled my allies to smash several enemies in the far south, but it just didn't pan out, and I left my jarls far too exposed to a late-game enemy.

On this last turn, my sea army was heading north to get into the other pond. They weren't on a lab province on the crucial turn that his forces arrived - so I had no water breathing items to outfit my teleporters! I probably could've held those two fortresses if I'd been able to gate stuff under the water, but with no water breathing items and my water breathing troops not at a lab. Sigh.

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Congratulations Zeldor!

A winner to a mege game.

For my part, it was my intent from the start to play a few rounds and exit in a blaze of glory. After a couple of successful wars against EA Aysia and LA Tien Chi, I was going to do a suicide attack on Zeldor. It was obvious to me that his lead was getting too large, and that for whatever reason the Weatern nations refused to deal with him.

But my plans on attacking Zeldor got undermined by a suicide attack on me by Ulm.That was not a big delay, but then Bandar Log and LA Marignon, for reasons that will never be clear to me, attacked as well. Normally I see that they thought a 2 v 1(3 if you count ulm) should result in a win, but any that have fought me know that wins are never quick or easy.

Moreover, I had told both of these nations I was going to attack la agartha. Had they waited a bit, they could have had my empire and it would have been crippled by my war with Zeldor. And it was intent to hurt Zeldor enough to let one of the Eastern powers gain the upper hand.

But as they say the best laid plans of mice and men.........

I will say this. Zeldor must have a sweeter tongue for diplomacy. My gunboat diplomacy failed in this game.

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Here is my last turn file. I can answer all questions :)

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Okay, explain this:

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Originally Posted by Zeldor (Post 610909)

Bleh, my starting position really really really sucks. I have no idea how could someone approve it for starting :/ I think someone owes me 50% of his income for having the game restarted...

Taken from the first page :happy:

I don't seem to be able to download the map from Mediafire, so at least I can't view your turn...

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OK, i have declared the game finished.

Turn 89 for a megagame is quite short :)

congratulations Zeldor

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I can't seem to download the map from the first post. Does anyone who has a copy feel like putting it up somewhere so people who weren't in the game can see zeldor's undoubtedly magnificent last turn?

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kingmaker_wrap2.rgb? I will upload it, should take about 10-15 mins though. It's quite big [I could probably pack it, but nah...]

Ok, here it is:
http://www.mediafire.com/?gtyymmn2ei9

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Congratulations on the win Zeldor!

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Congratulations Zeldor. Your victory shows that just because some people live underground doesn't mean you should look down on them.

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Congratulations Zeldor.

I should have stuck with you.

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Originally Posted by Xietor (Post 646090)

But you do not need the map file to play in the game just the rgb file.

http://rapidshare.com/files/15458178...wrap2.zip.html try this

This link, still works^ ^

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Oops. I completely forgot he did that.

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Well done Zeldor!

Particularly impressed by:-

Being 1st in research throughout the game, even with drain-2, just shows how good La Agarthian mages are. The game I won with La Agartha was because of my research lead.

Dispelling your own Forge of the Ancients after making most of the uniques. Good play, I would of never thought of doing this, probably stopped a earlier alliance vs you.

Your excellent diplomacy, stopping a serious alliance of your neighbors ganging up on you.

Turn 89 victory in a megagame, very impressive.

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My pretender design:

Awake A3E4D3 Risen Oracle. Growth3, Sloth3, Heat1, Growth3, Misfortune2, Drain2.

I expanded with cave drakes only.

I never cast any Armageddon. I wonder who started it? As I think it was Helheim doing last ones.

I had about 500E gems in my 2nd Forge. Did anyone try to dispel it, except DrP?

Meglobob:
I finished all research on turn 73. I had very small amount of lanterns [maybe 10-15 total max], no other research boosters.