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rdonj December 5th, 2009 04:12 PM

Re: Overlords - Game Thread. (playing)
 
I wasn't the only one who had a hand in designing the game. Remember I put out that game concept thread for advice, and I got a lot of help from QM, namad, and I think atul and some others on IRC. My initial version was much more complicated and problematic than the one you guys are playing.

My initial map concept was indeed a grid with overlords lined up and normals on all sides. Unfortunately I couldn't do that with the map you guys are playing on in any way shape or form, as it was hard even finding proper space to put overlords in. TC did have a pretty bad position, I feel bad about man's though, that island above TC could not have been an exciting place to live. In retrospect I should have at least given that island another land connection, hopefully one that did not head straight to TC territories.

Thanks for all your suggestions, I will keep these for later.


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I think packing the bonus gem sites in the Overlords forts would have been better than spreading them out as was done. It does make the Overlords core lands very inviting if they are looking in any way vulnerable. The actual forts are hard to take out - you can't just grab one, put up your dominion and enjoy the gem income - as you can with this set up.
I actually like having the Overlords gem incomes vulnerable, although not quite that vulnerable. If there's no reason to take an overlord's lands unless you're taking a fort, that really lowers a lot of the incentive of attacking one. I may consider adding some sort of rule to allow overlords to protect their starting territories more easily, but I don't think I'll be hiding gem incomes from raiding.

LumenPlacidum December 6th, 2009 07:55 PM

Re: Overlords - Game Thread. (playing)
 
The pretender god, Lingchih has been punished by the great and powerful Emperor Maximillion of Ermor and cast down. Let this be a message to all ye neighbors of Ashdod's lands--strike now and claim what you wish from the giants, for the giants can retaliate but weakly with their god displaced. Know you this, Ashdod, once Machaka's forces have been removed from the Empire, so too shall yours which so wrongfully attacked our outskirts known by the locals as "Bandar Log".

LupusFatalis December 6th, 2009 09:48 PM

Re: Overlords - Game Thread. (playing)
 
Then the prophecy has begun, Ashdod has tripped over their own overconfidence. Now their neighbors need but to lay aside their quibbles and strike out against the tyrant! For destiny sees fit to unleash its wrathful vengeance on those who strive to rise beyond their worth.

Lingchih December 6th, 2009 11:00 PM

Re: Overlords - Game Thread. (playing)
 
Lingchih is only temporarily inconvenienced. He will return shortly, and woe be to anyone that has tried to displace us in his absence. And Ashdod is not without defense without our God in mortal form. Perhaps you have seen our Adons, and their mighty Ahimen guards? If not, just come onto Ashdod lands, and you will meet them first hand.

Lingchih December 6th, 2009 11:35 PM

Re: Overlords - Game Thread. (playing)
 
Question, after the Overlord pretender has initiated a war and attacked a lesser nation's provs personally, can the Overlord then attack that nation indiscriminately, regardless of dom in it's provs?

Maybe I interpreted the rules too closely, but right now I am only attacking Ermor provs where I have dom, and it is becoming extremely limiting. Like fighting with both hands tied behind my back.

rdonj December 6th, 2009 11:53 PM

Re: Overlords - Game Thread. (playing)
 
No, you are interpreting the rules correctly. It's one of the reasons I think they need changed.

Squirrelloid December 7th, 2009 01:27 AM

Re: Overlords - Game Thread. (playing)
 
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Originally Posted by Lingchih (Post 720820)
Question, after the Overlord pretender has initiated a war and attacked a lesser nation's provs personally, can the Overlord then attack that nation indiscriminately, regardless of dom in it's provs?

Maybe I interpreted the rules too closely, but right now I am only attacking Ermor provs where I have dom, and it is becoming extremely limiting. Like fighting with both hands tied behind my back.

Welcome to my world.

Baalz December 7th, 2009 02:40 AM

Re: Overlords - Game Thread. (playing)
 
Hehe, and don't forget you can't actually capture Ermor's capital or even siege it. The way the rules are set up it doesn't really make any sense for an overlord to attack anybody but an overlord or a normal who is about to win.

Lingchih December 7th, 2009 02:43 AM

Re: Overlords - Game Thread. (playing)
 
Yeah, the rules for this game need to be changed. Let's just get it over with.

LupusFatalis December 7th, 2009 03:27 AM

Re: Overlords - Game Thread. (playing)
 
Sure, the rules need to be changed--they are prohibitive. But it is far from impossible for an overlord to win.


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