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Andrés May 10th, 2002 05:38 AM

Re: Star Wars Mod - II (Sci-Fi Xover Mod)
 
Files:
Ok what about these files
1-TXTs
2-Component/Facility/GameBitmaps
3-ShipsetBitmaps
4-Sounds
Would it be too complicated for a non-computer-literate player to have to repeat the install process 4 times?

No I didn't attempt to convert anything from the B5 mod yet.
It shouldn't be too hard, and it would be nice to test them together.

But IIRC there are details that need to be revised/edited before merging. Such as tech areas with repeated names and adding a Boarding Defense to the appropriate components to make Ion Cannons (sw) work.

You're using excel/word to merge the files, right? It would be easier if you can post or email me those files.

Mini-ringworld station:
We still have the star requirement (a problem to create many orbital cities around a planet)
Probably different techs will lead to different small artifical planets used by different races in B5/SW/ST

Sounds:
That's right standard sounds are 15Mb plus another 12Mb if you want to include the "old sounds" option. Didn't check how much compressed but I doubt they can be compressed more than 50%.

If we use a traditional approach we'd need to include all them plus new sounds.
That's why I was asking which alternative was best.

Vehicle Sizes:
I totally agree, most B5 ships I had added (even those that were used for smaller ships in the shipsets) look too big, they definitely need smaller ships.
I'd like to add more sizes but I don't know enough about B5 and ST to find the right ones.

Trek:
I'm not working in the trek part.
Natural progression would be cool.
I don't know enough about ST to even know if it's possible to make a believable tech tree to reflect this evolution through the different eras.

Val May 10th, 2002 11:53 PM

Re: Star Wars Mod - II (Sci-Fi Xover Mod)
 
Sounds easy enough to me.

In fact, on the alternate B5 Mod page, the D/Ls are broken into 12 different zips plus updates!

But, I know a lot of people had trouble with that, so I changed it to the current format. I think 4 may be a good medium:)

Andrés May 23rd, 2002 05:42 PM

Re: Star Wars Mod - II (Sci-Fi Xover Mod)
 
Nothing new since my Last post.
I didn't upload the files I was talking about.
Now I can't login with my FTP program an I'm waiting for an answe from host.

In the meantime, jimbob can you post or send me the data files for your astromech droids?
I'll see if they fit with the other techs and include them.

jimbob May 24th, 2002 03:45 AM

Re: Star Wars Mod - II (Sci-Fi Xover Mod)
 
Ok, here are the droids as I've made 'em. I made the attack bonuses to match the P&N mod, so they might need some balancing for the Sci-Fi mod [edit - plus they are designed for a QN movement system]. The droids replace cockpit, because the pilot will still need air etc. Finally, I introduced the tech area "miniaturization" as a pre-requisite. Critique and mod away!

Name := R1:D1 Astromech Droid
Description := A multifunctional, modular robotic computercore designed to assist fighterpilots in combat
Pic Num := 122
Tonnage Space Taken := 1
Tonnage Structure := 4
Cost Minerals := 3
Cost Organics := 0
Cost Radioactives := 25
Vehicle Type := Fighter
Supply Amount Used := 2
Restrictions := One Per Vehicle
General Group := Vehicle Control
Family := 6100
Roman Numeral := 1
Custom Group := 0
Number of Tech Req := 2
Tech Area Req 1 := Computers
Tech Level Req 1 := 1
Tech Area Req 2 := Miniaturization
Tech Level Req 2 := 2
Number of Abilities := 3
Ability 1 Type := Ship Bridge
Ability 1 Descr := Replaces most of the fighter's computer components, making the cockpit mass negligible.
Ability 1 Val 1 := 0
Ability 1 Val 2 := 0
Ability 2 Type := Armor
Ability 2 Descr := Astromech units can repair some of the damage (4 pts) done to their fighter.
Ability 2 Val 1 := 0
Ability 2 Val 2 := 0
Ability 3 Type := Combat To Hit Offense Plus
Ability 3 Descr := Gives a 4% attack bonus in combat.
Ability 3 Val 1 := 4
Ability 3 Val 2 := 0
Weapon Type := None

Name := R1:D2 Astromech Droid
Description := A multifunctional, modular robotic computercore designed to assist fighterpilots in combat
Pic Num := 122
Tonnage Space Taken := 1
Tonnage Structure := 6
Cost Minerals := 3
Cost Organics := 0
Cost Radioactives := 25
Vehicle Type := Fighter
Supply Amount Used := 2
Restrictions := One Per Vehicle
General Group := Vehicle Control
Family := 6100
Roman Numeral := 2
Custom Group := 0
Number of Tech Req := 2
Tech Area Req 1 := Computers
Tech Level Req 1 := 2
Tech Area Req 2 := Miniaturization
Tech Level Req 2 := 2
Number of Abilities := 3
Ability 1 Type := Ship Bridge
Ability 1 Descr := Replaces most of the fighter's computer components, making the cockpit mass negligible.
Ability 1 Val 1 := 0
Ability 1 Val 2 := 0
Ability 2 Type := Armor
Ability 2 Descr := Astromech units can repair some of the damage (6 pts) done to their fighter.
Ability 2 Val 1 := 0
Ability 2 Val 2 := 0
Ability 3 Type := Combat To Hit Offense Plus
Ability 3 Descr := Gives a 7% attack bonus in combat.
Ability 3 Val 1 := 7
Ability 3 Val 2 := 0
Weapon Type := None

Name := R1:D3 Astromech Droid
Description := A multifunctional, modular robotic computercore designed to assist fighterpilots in combat
Pic Num := 122
Tonnage Space Taken := 1
Tonnage Structure := 8
Cost Minerals := 3
Cost Organics := 0
Cost Radioactives := 30
Vehicle Type := Fighter
Supply Amount Used := 2
Restrictions := One Per Vehicle
General Group := Vehicle Control
Family := 6100
Roman Numeral := 3
Custom Group := 0
Number of Tech Req := 2
Tech Area Req 1 := Computers
Tech Level Req 1 := 3
Tech Area Req 2 := Miniaturization
Tech Level Req 2 := 2
Number of Abilities := 3
Ability 1 Type := Ship Bridge
Ability 1 Descr := Replaces most of the fighter's computer components, making the cockpit mass negligible.
Ability 1 Val 1 := 0
Ability 1 Val 2 := 0
Ability 2 Type := Armor
Ability 2 Descr := Astromech units can repair some of the damage (8 pts) done to their fighter.
Ability 2 Val 1 := 0
Ability 2 Val 2 := 0
Ability 3 Type := Combat To Hit Offense Plus
Ability 3 Descr := Gives a 10% attack bonus in combat.
Ability 3 Val 1 := 10
Ability 3 Val 2 := 0
Weapon Type := None

Name := R2:D1 Astromech Droid
Description := A multifunctional, modular robotic computercore designed to assist fighterpilots in combat
Pic Num := 122
Tonnage Space Taken := 1
Tonnage Structure := 4
Cost Minerals := 5
Cost Organics := 0
Cost Radioactives := 40
Vehicle Type := Fighter
Supply Amount Used := 12
Restrictions := One Per Vehicle
General Group := Vehicle Control
Family := 6100
Roman Numeral := 4
Custom Group := 0
Number of Tech Req := 3
Tech Area Req 1 := Computers
Tech Level Req 1 := 1
Tech Area Req 2 := Miniaturization
Tech Level Req 2 := 3
Tech Area Req 3 := Propulsion
Tech Level Req 3 := 3
Number of Abilities := 4
Ability 1 Type := Ship Bridge
Ability 1 Descr := Replaces most of the fighter's computer components, making the cockpit mass negligible.
Ability 1 Val 1 := 0
Ability 1 Val 2 := 0
Ability 2 Type := Armor
Ability 2 Descr := Astromech units can repair some of the damage (4 pts) done to their fighter.
Ability 2 Val 1 := 0
Ability 2 Val 2 := 0
Ability 3 Type := Combat To Hit Offense Plus
Ability 3 Descr := Gives a 4% attack bonus in combat.
Ability 3 Val 1 := 4
Ability 3 Val 2 := 0
Ability 4 Type := Standard Ship Movement
Ability 4 Descr := R2-D1 astromech droids can boost the fighter engine output, but at considerable expense.
Ability 4 Val 1 := 2
Ability 4 Val 2 := 0
Weapon Type := None

Name := R2:D2 Astromech Droid
Description := A multifunctional, modular robotic computercore designed to assist fighterpilots in combat
Pic Num := 122
Tonnage Space Taken := 1
Tonnage Structure := 6
Cost Minerals := 5
Cost Organics := 0
Cost Radioactives := 40
Vehicle Type := Fighter
Supply Amount Used := 15
Restrictions := One Per Vehicle
General Group := Vehicle Control
Family := 6100
Roman Numeral := 5
Custom Group := 0
Number of Tech Req := 3
Tech Area Req 1 := Computers
Tech Level Req 1 := 2
Tech Area Req 2 := Miniaturization
Tech Level Req 2 := 3
Tech Area Req 3 := Propulsion
Tech Level Req 3 := 6
Number of Abilities := 4
Ability 1 Type := Ship Bridge
Ability 1 Descr := Replaces most of the fighter's computer components, making the cockpit mass negligible.
Ability 1 Val 1 := 0
Ability 1 Val 2 := 0
Ability 2 Type := Armor
Ability 2 Descr := Astromech units can repair some of the damage (6 pts) done to their fighter.
Ability 2 Val 1 := 0
Ability 2 Val 2 := 0
Ability 3 Type := Combat To Hit Offense Plus
Ability 3 Descr := Gives a 7% attack bonus in combat.
Ability 3 Val 1 := 7
Ability 3 Val 2 := 0
Ability 4 Type := Standard Ship Movement
Ability 4 Descr := R2-D2 astromech droids can boost the fighter engine output, but at considerable expense.
Ability 4 Val 1 := 4
Ability 4 Val 2 := 0
Weapon Type := None

Name := R2:D3 Astromech Droid
Description := A multifunctional, modular robotic computercore designed to assist fighterpilots in combat
Pic Num := 122
Tonnage Space Taken := 1
Tonnage Structure := 8
Cost Minerals := 5
Cost Organics := 0
Cost Radioactives := 45
Vehicle Type := Fighter
Supply Amount Used := 20
Restrictions := One Per Vehicle
General Group := Vehicle Control
Family := 6100
Roman Numeral := 6
Custom Group := 0
Number of Tech Req := 3
Tech Area Req 1 := Computers
Tech Level Req 1 := 3
Tech Area Req 2 := Miniaturization
Tech Level Req 2 := 3
Tech Area Req 3 := Propulsion
Tech Level Req 3 := 10
Number of Abilities := 4
Ability 1 Type := Ship Bridge
Ability 1 Descr := Replaces most of the fighter's computer components, making the cockpit mass negligible.
Ability 1 Val 1 := 0
Ability 1 Val 2 := 0
Ability 2 Type := Armor
Ability 2 Descr := Astromech units can repair some of the damage (8 pts) done to their fighter.
Ability 2 Val 1 := 0
Ability 2 Val 2 := 0
Ability 3 Type := Combat To Hit Offense Plus
Ability 3 Descr := Gives a 10% attack bonus in combat.
Ability 3 Val 1 := 10
Ability 3 Val 2 := 0
Ability 4 Type := Standard Ship Movement
Ability 4 Descr := R2-D3 astromech droids can boost the fighter engine output, but at considerable expense.
Ability 4 Val 1 := 6
Ability 4 Val 2 := 0
Weapon Type := None

[ May 24, 2002, 02:50: Message edited by: jimbob ]

jimbob May 24th, 2002 03:54 AM

Re: Star Wars Mod - II (Sci-Fi Xover Mod)
 
In addition to the astromech droids, how about introducing fully automated fighters (a la Episode One). I've got a few tiny fighters made up, and I'm hoping to test them in P&N v.2.6. They seem to be pretty balanced, and would make excellent droid fighters (IMHO http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ).

If you'd like, I'll email them or post them here.

Andrés May 24th, 2002 03:45 PM

Re: Star Wars Mod - II (Sci-Fi Xover Mod)
 
I'm not completely convinced with your R2s but you gave some ideas.
I was planning to add droidfighters with the Trade Federation techs.

jimbob May 25th, 2002 02:38 AM

Re: Star Wars Mod - II (Sci-Fi Xover Mod)
 
Regarding the R2s, I wanted to add a short term boost to movement, as occurred in the "trench run" on the death star (Episode iv I guess).

Do you not like the movement as combat movement, or is there too much combat movement added?

Unfortunately combat movement bonuses are not stackable, so I made the R2s to put out a significant amount of movement points to make up for the fact that afterburners would have no additional affect.

Quote:

I was planning to add droidfighters with the Trade Federation techs.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Good! Are you going to make a fighter class that has no cockpit and/or life support requirement, or go the fighter sized master computer route?

Andrés May 26th, 2002 08:41 AM

Re: Star Wars Mod - II (Sci-Fi Xover Mod)
 
I've uploaded some of the files.
here

Critics/comments about what's Online are welcome.

[ May 26, 2002, 07:46: Message edited by: Andr&eacutes Lescano ]

PDF May 26th, 2002 02:49 PM

Re: Star Wars Mod - II (Sci-Fi Xover Mod)
 
Andrés,
Yout site only has the "data" and graphics files, but not the races/sets nor sounds.
Do you have hosting problems - no space left ?

Andrés May 26th, 2002 04:13 PM

Re: Star Wars Mod - II (Sci-Fi Xover Mod)
 
No, I haven't uploaded those files yet.
They are too big and I'm using a slow modem.

Edit: All files should be up now http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ May 27, 2002, 00:00: Message edited by: Andr&eacutes Lescano ]


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