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Slynky July 12th, 2003 04:40 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Dundas Redneck Clan (Kazarp) -vs- Trithian Empire (Slynky) 2409.9

Darn, you left. And just when I was about to give you the excitement you've been asking for.

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DavidG July 12th, 2003 05:25 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
Dundas Redneck Clan (Kazarp) -vs- Trithian Empire (Slynky) 2409.7

"Coward Prodder" for a ship name? LOL. Are there no limits ? ( http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif )

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Excellent. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Seems the boys have fullfilled their mission.

Slynky July 12th, 2003 05:34 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DavidG:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Slynky:
Dundas Redneck Clan (Kazarp) -vs- Trithian Empire (Slynky) 2409.7

"Coward Prodder" for a ship name? LOL. Are there no limits ? ( http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif )

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Excellent. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Seems the boys have fullfilled their mission.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, to speak the truth, your record commands respect, and I have treated you that way. Making my moves VERY carefully. I don't work tomorrow and my beer is taking its effect...so, if you are up for awhile, we will know the end in about 3 or 4 turns.

DavidG July 12th, 2003 06:03 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Dundas Redneck Clan (Kazarp) -vs- Trithian Empire (Slynky) 2410.1[/b]

In a most unexpected move the entire Military command of the Dundas Rednecks empire from Captain up have been executed by the political wing of the Clan for gross negligence for completely failing to have their ships obey their orders resulting in a prefectly nice little plan falling flat on it's face.

DavidG July 12th, 2003 06:06 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
I don't work tomorrow and my beer is taking its effect...so,
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Mmmmm beer. Too bad I made my empire quick while on holiday otherwise you would be fighting the Clan with the amusing beer oriented descriptions and histroy. (and also a much smarter clan as I messed up my empire by forgetting to increase my intelligence) DOH!

Slynky July 12th, 2003 06:06 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DavidG:
Dundas Redneck Clan (Kazarp) -vs- Trithian Empire (Slynky) 2410.1

In a most unexpected move the entire Military command of the Dundas Rednecks empire from Captain up have been executed by the political wing of the Clan for gross negligence for completely failing to have their ships obey their orders resulting in a prefectly nice little plan falling flat on it's face.[/b]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If you mean those stupid fighters, YES, I wondered what was up with that! However, that is the least of your problems.

Slynky July 12th, 2003 06:12 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Hehe...did EVERYONE hear me yell OUCH !!!! Did EVERYONE hear my surprise!?!?

Nice (lucky?) move with that fleet of yours!

Oh, and did I say, "OUCH"?

DavidG July 12th, 2003 06:15 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
Hehe...did EVERYONE hear me yell OUCH !!!! Did EVERYONE hear my surprise!?!?

Nice (lucky?) move with that fleet of yours!

Oh, and did I say, "OUCH"?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Aw come on you only lost 49 ships. I lost 6. they were real nice new and shiny ones too.

Edit: Bah closing warp points. Now that was just mean. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

[ July 12, 2003, 05:34: Message edited by: DavidG ]

Slynky July 12th, 2003 06:41 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DavidG:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Slynky:
Hehe...did EVERYONE hear me yell OUCH !!!! Did EVERYONE hear my surprise!?!?

Nice (lucky?) move with that fleet of yours!

Oh, and did I say, "OUCH"?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Aw come on you only lost 49 ships. I lost 6. they were real nice new and shiny ones too.

Edit: Bah closing warp points. Now that was just mean. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No matter, somehow, you caught my big fleet when I opened a hole and WHOMPPED it! So, speaking of MEAN....LOL.

Slynky July 12th, 2003 07:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DavidG:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Slynky:
Dundas Redneck Clan (Kazarp) -vs- Trithian Empire (Slynky) 2409.7

"Coward Prodder" for a ship name? LOL. Are there no limits ? ( http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif )

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Excellent. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Seems the boys have fullfilled their mission.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, to speak the truth, your record commands respect, and I have treated you that way. Making my moves VERY carefully. I don't work tomorrow and my beer is taking its effect...so, if you are up for awhile, we will know the end in about 3 or 4 turns.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, ONE thing is for sure, never count out the Rednecks! 4 or 5 turns have passed and I've only reduced your colony count by 2 or 3 while dropping my ship count by 30 or so. Hehe. Guess I should THINK a bit more!

Cheeze July 12th, 2003 04:44 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Now THESE (Kazarp vs Slynky) have been some great Posts!!

tesco samoa July 12th, 2003 06:51 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
dg did you say stellar in a koth game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Grandpa Kim July 12th, 2003 09:02 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
dg did you say stellar in a koth game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah! What he said! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Roanon July 12th, 2003 09:02 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Kilrah Clan (Roanon) -vs- United Floral Empire (Cheeze) 2401.1

Flowers. With a space ship. What has the universe come to these days...

We met early, and while the our methane atmosphere seems to be only an exotic error of nature in all previously explored systems, of course there are two juicy ones in the contested system. Sigh. While, on the other hand, half of the planets in the known galaxy seems to have Carbon Dioxide, that what passes as an atmosphere among these greenies. Sigh.

I'm trying to play with them a bit using my claws, maybe I can wed them out before they take root. I just hope they have no thorns, but risking one claw will not hurt - I hope... Otherwise I have to call for some more agressive pest control - bad weeds growing tall in my back guarden just goes too far.

[ July 12, 2003, 20:06: Message edited by: Roanon ]

Slynky July 12th, 2003 11:45 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Dundas Redneck Clan (Kazarp) -vs- Trithian Empire (Slynky) 2411.6

Well, Last few turns have had some excitement! I've been opening holes, wiping some planets, and retreating. Despite that, his colony count hasn't decreased significantly. He has 78 colonies to my 115.

A few battles here and there, the Last one a WHOPPER! He caught 23 of my BC's (19 warships) with a fleet of 86 ( http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif ) (70 warships mostly LC's with some crusiers). I lost everything but due to higher-tech ships, managed to leave him with only 40 warships (I think) and some of those damaged. Nothing like a 130k combat file!

More fun to come, I suspect. Now I can take the hold off my shipyards that were building battleships (minerals now... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ).

[ July 12, 2003, 22:48: Message edited by: Slynky ]

DavidG July 14th, 2003 03:04 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Grandpa Kim:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by tesco samoa:
dg did you say stellar in a koth game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah! What he said! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ditto!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

This game came to a point where we both knew each other had a big fleet on the opposite warp point and each refused to blink and attack first. Slinky you mentioned that you should 'THINK' fist. Well my opinion is that maybe think too much. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ('course I can see my ships that you can't) I think the game could have been over a while ago but we had a long cold war were neither attacked. (me because I knew you had the edge and could only defeat you by shooting first at a warp point,(Actually my fleet was set to invade the turn after you moved that fleet to defend the warp point!) ) Had you attacked at this time you would have found out what you now know.... I had no ships in 2 of the 3 key systems. Why? Because the only possible way to defeat your superior ships (in tech and numbers) was to amass my ships in one big fleet. Of course much has happend since then so we shall see what happens. (although I think the outcome is much the same as I though it would be 60 turns ago. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif )

(hope that long run on paragraph made sense. Too many beers at the Indy race today. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif )

[ July 14, 2003, 02:05: Message edited by: DavidG ]

DavidG July 14th, 2003 03:20 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Can someone put some padded mattreses at the bottom of the hill? I been falling down there a lot lately. The Rednecks have surrender to Slinky's empire. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif (when half your entire fleet (and the fully trained half) gets killed by 20 ships it's time to give it up)

[ July 14, 2003, 02:30: Message edited by: DavidG ]

Slynky July 14th, 2003 04:15 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Dundas Redneck Clan (Kazarp) -vs- Trithian Empire (Slynky) 2411.8

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/newup...1058147124.jpg

Yellow: Dundas Redneck Clan homeworld
Orange: Trithian Empire homeworld
Purple: Systems with no planets

Again, I apologize for playing safely. As I mentioned before, your skill at the game had me convinced I'd lose (though I planned to do my best). Also, I didn't like my starting position very well (and I felt that made it even worse).

So, a little summary (or for those who know me too well, maybe NOT so little http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ).

As I said before, it took my ships 4 turns just to get to the first colonizable system. And every ship I built down there had to travel 4 turns just to get the that system. Even longer to get "into play".

I saw the two places I wanted to set defenses at (numbered 1 and 2) but as I said in an earlier post, I didn't get set up. After I had colonized all I could in #2, I had a few ships go for defense. I never even controlled #1 as the Rednecks were able to share it with me (taking a huge breathable for himself). Many turns later, he began the assault I spoke of. Trashed all the systems at #2 and entered the next system to its southeast. I was able to stop him at #1, though. Finally, after 6 or 7 systems were wiped, I stopped his southeastward attack. This is where I began to play it safe.

I looked at the map and it appeared we had about half of it apiece. It took me several turns to stop his fleet that attacked at #2. But, he never followed up with the attack with more ships. I figured the second wave would follow (after all, I hadn't seen any new ships appear for 10 turns or so). When no second wave appeared, I assumed he had decided to blockade HIS side of the boundarys at #1 and #2. So, I did the same. By now, I was in first place but, that's just a small indicator. I had built the heck out of minerals and resource productions so I could build nothing but warships and THAT could have meant the score. So, I kept building MORE warships figuring he'd attack soon. Though I had lots of ships for defense, I also had to worry about if he had overloaded one side and THAT'S the side I might walk into if I chanced an attack. Or that he had built a bunch of capture ships (each of us had used them some). So, I didn't want to risk the game on an attack. Especially someone as crafty as Kazarp!

So, I took my chance and researched Ice. Built a lot of research and worked on Stellar Manip and Gas, too. That would be my way around the defensive points we had built up. Since I was hanging in first place and colonizing all types, I saw no reason to jepordize my position. While my "opener" and "closer" were building, I got Mineral 2 and then Mineral 3 and in-between, full phased shields ('cause I figured he'd have PPBs for sure when I would meet him again).

At game's end, I STILL don't know why he didn't have more tech than he did. I don't think his planet/system opportunities were bad (he certainly didn't have as many "useless" systems as I had on the south side).

So, once again, I apologize for "inserting" 40 boring turns. They weren't boring for me as I was scared of an attack each turn I received... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif )

Thanks, David, for the game. We managed 118 turns from July 2nd (our restart) to July 13th. Not a record but NOT bad!

Ragnarok July 14th, 2003 04:18 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
The Beer Chuggers Group (Ragnarok) vs. The Chin Empire (GozGuy)

Stardate 2402.2 - Not much to report as of yet. No meeting as of yet and expansion is going greatly. I just hope I can afford the maint. on my large 30 ship fleet I have looking for Goz out there. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Stardate 2402.4 - First contact has been made. Things will get interesting now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Slynky July 14th, 2003 04:26 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
dg did you say stellar in a koth game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey, Tesco, by "stellar", do you mean Stellar Manipulation in a KOTH game?

Ragnarok July 14th, 2003 04:38 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by tesco samoa:
dg did you say stellar in a koth game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey, Tesco, by "stellar", do you mean Stellar Manipulation in a KOTH game?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, I'm sure that's what he meant. I can hardly believe it myself. Not many people will go for that technology in such a game. But if you have the time and it won't hurt anything why not? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Oh, nice wrap up BTW. I enjoyed seeing your reports. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Slynky July 14th, 2003 04:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Ragnarok:

"Yeah, I'm sure that's what he meant. I can hardly believe it myself. Not many people will go for that technology in such a game. But if you have the time and it won't hurt anything why not?"

Yeah, I guess it's a bit unusual. At game's end, I had about 175k research. BUT, certainly not the first game with that. Mark the Merciful and I BOTH had it in the game he beat me in http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif )

"Oh, nice wrap up BTW. I enjoyed seeing your reports."

Thanks. I read everyone's reports with interest and sometimes, I wish I had a map to look at, so I thought if anyone was interested any games I played it, they might like a map (for reference), too. So...what the heck, right http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ?
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Baron Grazic July 14th, 2003 05:23 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
I was going to post a map to wrap up Ragnarok and my Last game, but I just could find out how to upload the file... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Grazic's EEEvil EEEmpire vs Grandpakim's Confederation 2401.8

3 turns ago an EEEvil colony ship warped into the central Hwansul system only to find a colony already there.
We sent a friendly message demanding them to get out of our system and the Grandpakim's Confederation insulted us by calling us UGLY...
The EEEvil EEEmpire may be insane, but we know an insult when we hear one, and the only reply we know is to crank out the War Ships...

Ragnarok July 14th, 2003 05:28 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
I was going to post a map to wrap up Ragnarok and my Last game, but I just could find out how to upload the file... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">For future games that you wish to do this. Go to this link.
Once there you will be in a reply screen, on the left hand side of the screen will be a link that says "Upload File Forum" click on that and it will open a small pop up with your browse button and the upload button. Find the file on your computer and upload it. It will then give you a link to use. Copy the link and post it in any message you want on the forums. Hope that helps. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Baron Grazic July 14th, 2003 05:42 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Thanks Rags.

DavidG July 14th, 2003 05:45 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
At game's end, I STILL don't know why he didn't have more tech than he did. I don't think his planet/system opportunities were bad (he certainly didn't have as many "useless" systems as I had on the south side).

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Check out my empire file. You will note the wee mistake I made. I forgot to increase my Intellignece and decrease my Repair. Going for intel was probably a mistake too. All that research and all those facility slots.

Here is another porblem I had. Check out how easy it is for you to move ships from 1 to 2. Now look what a pain it was for me to move between the 2 systems north of them. Made it hard to defend both systems or to have an attack fleet come out of either one.

[ July 14, 2003, 16:51: Message edited by: DavidG ]

primitive July 14th, 2003 06:08 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Mark the (Un)mercifull is ready for a shot at the King. Primitive surrenders at turn 64.

I never got started in this game. Production was never enough to get any sort of usefull fleets together.
Only the threath of the rusty (yet pointy) spear kept Mark from crushing me much eariler http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Asmala:
It's vacation time. Can't start any new games before mid August. I'll send you a note when i am ready again http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Gozra July 14th, 2003 07:02 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
The Beer Chuggers Group (Ragnarok) vs. The Chin Empire (GozGuy)
We would like to post a correction
The Chin represent the Non-alcholic malt beverage Users and the Lollipop guild. Hopefully you Beer chuggers won't lick us.

Asmala July 14th, 2003 10:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by primitive:
Asmala:
It's vacation time. Can't start any new games before mid August. I'll send you a note when i am ready again http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">OK. KOTH page updated.

There is now a very interesting match, Rollo vs Mark. Neither of them have lost a game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Slynky July 14th, 2003 11:05 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DavidG:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Slynky:
At game's end, I STILL don't know why he didn't have more tech than he did. I don't think his planet/system opportunities were bad (he certainly didn't have as many "useless" systems as I had on the south side).

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Check out my empire file. You will note the wee mistake I made. I forgot to increase my Intellignece and decrease my Repair. Going for intel was probably a mistake too. All that research and all those facility slots.

Here is another porblem I had. Check out how easy it is for you to move ships from 1 to 2. Now look what a pain it was for me to move between the 2 systems north of them. Made it hard to defend both systems or to have an attack fleet come out of either one.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, I thought 300,000 points for intel research was a bit much especially considering the food contamination successes (which hurt a few turns every time you killed of all the pop on a planet but I had 4 frigates stationed with pop on board that could get places fairly easily). You might have been better off putting those 300,000 toward Ice (or Gas) tech and those intel facs to research and resources.

And, yes, I DID notice the difficulty you had defending points 1 and 2 (the reason why I decided it was a strategic point for me to control early in the game). I could move back and forth between #1 and #2 defensive points and you couldn't. Another possible mistake (always so easy to see in hindsight http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ) was continuing on after you wiped all the planets at point #2. Might have been better to put a defense at the bottom hole in that system and consolidate. Then you would have had better access to point 1. But who really knows how that would have turned out, right? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

DavidG July 14th, 2003 11:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
Yeah, I thought 300,000 points for intel research was a bit much especially considering the food contamination successes (which hurt a few turns every time you killed of all the pop on a planet but I had 4 frigates stationed with pop on board that could get places fairly easily). You might have been better off putting those 300,000 toward Ice (or Gas) tech and those intel facs to research and resources.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yea 20/20 hindsight. I have used Intel quite effectivly in a couple KOTH style games. The problem this time is I seemed to run out of facility slots. Also I perhaps should have pulled the move I pulled once on Rags. That is start 11 food contamination projects at once and let them all finish on the same turn. hehe Now that hurts. But this time It seemed I wouldn't be able to build enough facilites to make it work in time.
I don't know if it was the same for you but I just didn't seem to have the facility space I was expecting. Maybe it was just the map or just me.

Of course another big reason I probably lost was underestimating you. (which is entirely your fault. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif All those "oooo I'm playing the guy 2nd on the standings thing". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif hehe. Being 2nd in the standings mostly just means I've played a lot of games. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I actually thought about making the KOTH program do the standing by won/loss percentage. (but then I would drop down. hehe got to be some perks for writing the program http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )

Mark the Merciful July 14th, 2003 11:57 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
The Kif (Mark the Merciful) vs The Primitive Horde (Primitive) turn; 2406.5

(Standard K.O.T.H. settings)

Primitive surrenders...

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/newup...1058220162.gif

Purple is my home system, orange is Primitive's home system. Blue are my colonised systems, red are Primitives Colonised systems. Yellow is the contested zone in which we did most of our fighting, and white are empty systems.

I saw from the start of the game that if I could get to certain choke points first, I could gain a bigger share of the map. Then, when we came into contact in the Eastern half, I kept up a policy of agressively minelaying, colonising and skirmishing in Primitive's space, which set up the more or less permanent contested zone.

After our initial skirmishing, Primitive's Carrier fleets were looking pretty dangerous. My first Light Cruiser fleet was wiped out with the loss of some of his fighters. However, he then made what would have been a series of laudable agressive moves, but which relied on gambling that my minefields were small. They weren't, and he lost 12 carriers to mines in the next couple of turns.

By then I was fairly confident that my newer ships with better sensors would be able to pick off the fighters from range, and so it proved. I started clearing Primitive out from the Easternmost of the contested systems, while he launched a sudden raid through the central warp point to the empty system, and turned right, deep into my space. The system he turned up in had my single biggest concenntration of blue mining (about 60K in total), and was a gateway to several unguarded systems in the heart of my empire. I had a defensive fleet, but it was not clear that I would win the battle, and if I lost that fleet, all those systems could be doomed. So while I felt I was ahead over all, I was still feeling nervous and started playing very conservatively so as to avoid any sudden disasters.

So, my defensive fleet danced around and avoided combat while I tried to get new production in to reinforce it. Meanwhile, I pre-emptively destroyed most of those blue-producing planets, and Primitive captured the one that was too big to abandon. And back in the East, I cleared Primitive out of another of the contested systems and destroyed a defending fleet with moderate damage to mine.

Finally, I plucked up the courage to attack his raiding fleet, and put a second fleet into the contested zone. His raiding fleet was easily destroyed, and he only had one remaining fleet (that I could see) to defend again my three (and a fourth in building). At this point, Primitive surrendered.

I really enjoyed the game, and although I was ahead, probably, from quite early on, it was tense nearly all the way through.

So, it's time for the big one. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

(edit: five times to get the image in properly - grrr - and once for spelling)

[ July 14, 2003, 23:07: Message edited by: Mark the Merciful ]

Slynky July 15th, 2003 12:32 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark the Merciful:
The Kif (Mark the Merciful) vs The Primitive Horde (Primitive) turn; 2406.5

(Standard K.O.T.H. settings)

Primitive surrenders...

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/newup...1058220162.gif


<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Now, THIS is one place a map helped! Not sure I could have followed all without it.

Fighting on 2 fronts is always nerve-racking. All those questions: Should this newly-built ship go here or there? Does he have more coming at me here or there? Should I go through this warp hole or defend at it? (etc.) Much simpler with one location http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif .

Congrats on your climb, Mark! Somehow, I knew when I played you (and got beat), you had the stuff to go high on the hill!

Slynky July 16th, 2003 03:15 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DavidG:

I actually thought about making the KOTH program do the standing by won/loss percentage. (but then I would drop down. hehe got to be some perks for writing the program http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Of course, for people who like statistics, if you should ever make another change, you might think about adding a column to the right of the Loss column with win percentage listed. Of course, it would skew the win percentages for people who have played one game and won it. So, you could consider only computing it after, say, 3 games. Of course, leave it in its current sort so that the win percentage just becomes another item to look at and not the major sort.

(don'tcha like people who are always recommending additonal work for you? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

sparhawk July 17th, 2003 08:05 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
KOTH Phoenix-D vs. Sparhawk

The Spar Alliance is victorious ones again.
Please put me one up and Phoenix-D likes to have some break, if I'm right.

sparhawk

Asmala July 17th, 2003 09:16 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sparhawk:
Please put me one up and Phoenix-D likes to have some break, if I'm right.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Phoenix-D, if Sparhawk isn't right let out a yell and I put you back to the hill http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Cheeze July 18th, 2003 06:53 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Asmala,

Move me back down and put Roanon up. I look forward to play someone as soon as possible.

Slynky July 18th, 2003 07:02 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Cheeze:
Asmala,

Move me back down and put Roanon up. I look forward to play someone as soon as possible.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wow, Cheesey One! Any other words, like a description of what happened?

Slynky July 18th, 2003 07:53 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
I see Roanon and I have been paired.

Roanon, I prefer standard KOTH settings (but if you have a proposed deviation from that, we can talk).

I'm EDT (Atlanta) and will be able to knock out several turns tonight if you're interested.

Roanon July 18th, 2003 08:04 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
KOTH Roanon vs. Cheeze

We met very early, our home systems being very near together, one system apart on one side, 2 systems in between on the other side. We both had one other exit from our homeworlds into uncontested systems, but by sheer luck I had the largest part of the galaxy behind my back while Cheeze was nearly pushed in the corner.

In the initial struggle I had the edge shipwise but kept loosing battles anyway and lost several planets in my home system. The game was finally decided by mines, which I barely got in time to defeat his ships in my home system. Luck again, one turn later and I would have lost I guess.

After that, I managed to box him in his home system plus exit into corner/edge while I could expand through the middle. Funny, nearly all of the planets breathable for me were in his quarter of the galaxy while I encountered everywhere lots of planets that would have been good for him. Luckily, as I found out later, there were very few of these in the systems that he managed to seize.

Roanon July 18th, 2003 08:11 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
I see Roanon and I have been paired.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, halfway up the hill I always seem to get the tough ones to loose against http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif (Hi RexTorres, how is the air up there?)

I already sent a mail about settings. I'm on European time which means its 8.15 pm here right now, but I'm usually working/playing at night (too hot to even think here during daytime) so I wouldn't mind a bunch of turns right now. I'm out of town tomorrow (and have to sleep a few hours before), but should be ok again late sunday (about this time).

Slynky July 18th, 2003 10:05 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Roanon:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Slynky:
I see Roanon and I have been paired.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, halfway up the hill I always seem to get the tough ones to loose against http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif (Hi RexTorres, how is the air up there?)

I already sent a mail about settings. I'm on European time which means its 8.15 pm here right now, but I'm usually working/playing at night (too hot to even think here during daytime) so I wouldn't mind a bunch of turns right now. I'm out of town tomorrow (and have to sleep a few hours before), but should be ok again late sunday (about this time).
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, it's getting late for you now, but when Asmala get's the game ready, perhaps I can do a few turns here from work (since they are so fast to do early http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ).

Slynky July 19th, 2003 05:02 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Trithian Empire (Slynky) -vs- Kilrah Clan (Roanon) 2402.3

(standard KOTH but good starting planet instead of average)

Strange game, sort of. I took Ancient race this game and saw that Roanon was the next system over. In fact, I could have built an escort and moved it over his homeworld the 2nd turn. That's CLOSE!

Instead of taking a chance for a win like that, I decided it was better to play it safe and give the game a chance. Besides, who likes to win like that? So, I spent some time blockading the hole to his system instead. Turns out I could have done some serious damage because he didn't know I was "next door" (he ran a colony ship into my defenses). Better game this way, anyhow!

So...now, it's been a matter of expanding and watching the "hole" between us. Not much else to report. Roanon stayed up late playing many turns...he's from Germany...and that deserves an applause!

Grandpa Kim July 19th, 2003 07:58 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Grazic vs. Grandpakim approx 2403.5

Borders are established and I'm not liking it one bit! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif The Baron holds the central choke point which divides my territory from his. No doubt this will be a tough nut to crack but it must be cracked since its the only way through. For now, "You can't get there from here."

The Baron is embarrassing me badly with his sneaky use of mines but I think he's a little worried about my more versatile fighters. Soon (now that's a relative term http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) I will show him the error of his ways.

DavidG July 20th, 2003 03:19 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Was it not proven or tested somewhere that all atmosphere types were more less equal? In my current KOTH game I'm finding an amazing lack of breathable planets. O2 planets outnumber my type by 2-1 so far. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

geoschmo July 20th, 2003 03:28 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DavidG:
Was it not proven or tested somewhere that all atmosphere types were more less equal? In my current KOTH game I'm finding an amazing lack of breathable planets. O2 planets outnumber my type by 2-1 so far. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Flip a thousand coins David and at some point chances are good you will get a bunch of tails in a row.

Geoschmo

Asmala July 20th, 2003 07:54 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
I have surrendered to RexTorres. Not much to say about this game, he blocked me to the corner and then rolled over me. I didn't provide even a trouble to Rex http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif I hope I can give more challenge to him at the next game if (when? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) we meet.

Cheeze July 20th, 2003 03:05 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
I have been assigned to play against....Asmala!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Last time I was losing right from the first contact and it just got worse before I was finished off. Will this be a chance for me to redeem myself against perhaps the most dangerous and unpredictable player in the game?

Slynky July 20th, 2003 03:21 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Cheeze:
I have been assigned to play against....Asmala!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Last time I was losing right from the first contact and it just got worse before I was finished off. Will this be a chance for me to redeem myself against perhaps the most dangerous and unpredictable player in the game?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, as Clinton might say, "I feel your pain!" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

I'd tell you the secret to beating him but...I don't talk about how other people play KOTH and what I know about them. It would be unfair. Besides, I don't KNOW of a way to beat him... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif . The best I can tell you to hope for is a lucky distribution of systems/planets.

As a side note, if you have followed any of the "Challenge Match" thread, where Lord Chane, Asmala, and I put forth a challenge to the best in the forum, you may see an update that shows things swinging our way. One of the main reasons is Asmala (and him being able to expand in an uncontained way).

Slynky July 20th, 2003 04:23 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
So, guys, we're (well, at least me) expecting updates on the KOTH Match being held in the clouds. I know it's only 5 turns in, but WHO'S winning? ( http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif )

[EDIT] You know I'm talking about Rollo and Mark, right?

[ July 20, 2003, 18:43: Message edited by: Slynky ]


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