Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">To accept that something is omnipotent and omniscient means that unless they explode themselves with logical immpossibilities (big bang maybe??) they know everything and can do everything and could likely place equal consideration to every single atom in the universe with no limit on his unlimited resources.

Spiro

Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No, you may not. Nor do I take kindly to the tagline you've ascribed to me.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I prefer "Spike", also.

-- Arryn the agnostic and skeptic

Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hmmm. How about the notion that any insignificant human could accurately discern what an all-powerful, all-knowing, eternal entity would or would not deign to care about?

Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Omniscience and omnipotence is a logical impossibility in itself. If you haven't studied philosophy (and physics), you might try doing so.

Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Touche! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Surely as a skeptic you would be first in the house to put forward possibilities of how something could be outside the boundries of a prescribed theory ?

And as for the 'spike' thing, bah. If i accept the theory that your all just ideas generated by my mind and when I stop thinking about you then you cease to exist till i start again, without god to be thinking about you constantly then 'ole whitebeard' doesnt seem like a bad concept. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

Spiro.

Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">On further thought, yes you can. You can probably even get the side aspect of the tank in the frame, and not just the front aspect, from 30' away. 30' is pretty far. If I remembered my high school trignometry from 29 years ago better than I do, I could tell you for sure. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Good. Now you are talking. And yes, I think you are correct and you could indeed fit the length of the tank, or at least large part of it (8.1m). But with 2.4m and 3m frontal shoot you would have no problem whatsoever, even if norf would put his non-existent T34 tanks on top of each other. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ July 29, 2004, 11:35: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]

Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Point taken. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

All right, I am off for today. See you guys later.

[ July 29, 2004, 11:37: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]

Re: OT: Jibjab, Politics, the Big Bang and more!
 

Im studying philosophy right now, though not physics of course. I have not yet come accross an arguement for omnipotence or omniscience to be logically impossible and thats not to say, Ive read it all and its not there, I just havent come accross it.

Though my next area of study is indeed faith, destiny and purpose, maybe it will show itself.

Spiro.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'm on thin ice here, but I do think Arryn's right, in that if you regard omniscience as perpetual awareness and knowledge of the future then there's a real problem with God holding us accountable and punishable for the sins He has always known we're going to commit.

I took a Jehovah's Witness to task on the issue once, and he responded that in his view, God's power to know the future is a power that He rarely chooses to exercise. In other words, while He could know the future, He usually chooses not to. I don't buy it myself, but who's to say it aint so?