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Wrana May 6th, 2010 06:52 PM

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. 17/17. AI Creation Phase.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 13lackGu4rd (Post 744688)
also, it's not only our team that is growing impatient, look at several posts in this very thread from people on different teams, they've also finished planning their strategies weeks ago and are already impatient, and I'm sure that after our team left as a whole that those others would also follow. which is why I suggest you start over, and with better planning this time.

If you mean my humble self, I was not even present in this game "weeks ago". I filled a vacant position in Children of Crom less than week ago, I believe.
Honestly, it looks like you've suddenly decided to leave this game due to completely unrelated reasons. Especially as the date of 8th of May was stated several days ago and you all seemed OK with it. Looks quite childish all in all. :lol:

13lackGu4rd May 6th, 2010 07:05 PM

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. 13/17. AI Creation Phase.
 
when did I mention your name specifically Wrana? what's with this sudden personal attack? :o

honestly, you either don't understand, or choose to ignore what is presented to you, but I certainly don't see how this decision was either sudden of childish. don't feel the need to repeat myself specifically for you, reread my posts if you wish, also scroll back further to see other posts by other people...

Septimius Severus May 6th, 2010 07:18 PM

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. 13/17. AI Creation Phase.
 
I do agree with Wrana somewhat. Waiting till two days before start time to announce it is a bit unfair to everyone else. Still I understand that things happen, a lot of it had to do with some other time issues on the team with all the members in general. Some players are anxious to get playing and so forth and things happen in life. DrP has always acted responsibly, so if he thought it was in the best interest of everyone else, not to hold up the game when we get started, he would have done it.

I don't know what is going on with the Usurpers Squirrel, but I did PM all members of that team today to make sure everything was OK with them prior to start. I always encourage captains to fill those alternate slots, because there are always dropouts for one reason or another. And to stay in touch with each other. No reason for me to scrap a concept that is quite promising and that so much time has been put into. I am grateful to DrP though and everone else for signing up and believing in me and the game and I hope he stays on as the advisor for that team.

Btw, Gandalf has come up with an exciting concept that he will apparently be implementing in this game for the AIs, that of giving the AI nations mixed units. Thus Caelum could recruit Man units and TC could recruit Caelum units, etc in their caps.

ano May 6th, 2010 07:25 PM

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. 13/17. AI Creation Phase.
 
Well, it's a bit sudden not to say the less... I understand everything but still...
Septimius, I have to say that it is probably wiser for us all to give up this game temporarily and return to it a bit later. This does not mean I wanna drop as well, and, as I said, I will be able to play for several people for some time, if needed, but it will be just wiser. It doesn't mean this game is bad, just unlucky, and perhaps we indeed devoted too much time to the discussions and hard decisions... You did a huge amount of work and it should not be wasted. Personally I am ready to wait more but I am almost sure that many people are not. Also, summer is coming. Vacations, holidays etc.
Unpleasant backstab anyway.

ano May 6th, 2010 07:28 PM

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. 13/17. AI Creation Phase.
 
Or another suggestion - let's give up the team blood (replace with AI) and play without it. Of course, some team will be unlucky to have no borders with that AI but this game is all about luck...
I just want to stay that further waiting will not be good.

Septimius Severus May 6th, 2010 07:38 PM

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. 13/17. AI Creation Phase.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ano (Post 744722)
Or another suggestion - let's give up the team blood (replace with AI) and play without it. Of course, some team will be unlucky to have no borders with that AI but this game is all about luck...
I just want to stay that further waiting will not be good.

I have no problem with turning the whole Sanguinarium team AI if everyone want to start right away. If not, and people don't jump in to fill those empty slots immediately, I will use the extra time to complete Chris' mod, and then we will get started when any remaining slots are filled. No biggie. I don't want anyone who feels they are fine with waiting or doesn't want to lose the time they put into the game to feel like they need to go away or lose a position they have or drop. Everyone who is in already, is welcome to stay in. Anyone who wants to join is free to do so as well. If I have to put the game on hold till fall, that won't bother me either, but I hope it won't be necessary.

I'm very excited about what Gandalf will be doing with the AI, and it can actually be used with human nations as well. Something to consider for the future.

Tonno May 7th, 2010 03:11 AM

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. 13/17. AI Creation Phase.
 
Well I am bad on english so I can not say much,and I can not post what is on my mind now...:D

I understand u all are older than me,and probably have much more important things to do than to make online games...
But to say we backout 2 days before the game starts,omg,that would not even my childish friends do (thay would quit in the middle of the game)...
and when the flood comes every one goes with her...why to wait now,ok I have no problem with waiting I am new here so that do not effect me much,but the game is planed werry well,and the host was taking care of all things,so that the game would be feir and interesting (not like other games,fast and with no sense)...
And why your team broken,I personally think that is due to poor communication,my team have nice and fair communication even with me and I am a noob...and everything works well...

In the end I still do not get why to back out on the beginning of the game,that is like ppl discover cold fusion and then just say "ah,we do not need it"...wtf...?

Ok AI team is ok idea,but I think that we could tray to find replacement on forums for them (team Sanguinarium) if not we can start with AI team...
And if u vote to start the game some other day,month(OK), year(hope not :D)it is ok for me...

Septimius Severus May 7th, 2010 04:36 AM

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. 13/17. AI Creation Phase.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tonno (Post 744770)
In the end I still do not get why to back out on the beginning of the game,that is like ppl discover cold fusion and then just say "ah,we do not need it"...wtf...?

I absolutely agree. I think if they were worried about delays, the justifiable thing to do would be to actually wait the 2 days to see if what was expressed as a fear of theirs actually happened. But I understand about the time constraints and real life issues people have.

Lets see about replacements for the Sangiunarium. A potentially very powerful team consisting of:

Abysia, Pangaea, Vanheim, Jotunheim.

A great opportunity to get into the game in my opinion and command your own team.

Jorus May 7th, 2010 07:48 AM

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. 13/17. Blood Team Avail.
 
I think we should get this game going asap. Unless we are extremely lucky it will take some time to get a whole new team manned and up-to-speed with all the fine points of the game - and they may want to change some!
In the meantime there may be more drop-outs and we have an extended battle of addition vs attrition.
So, I vote to put the S team on AI, or use a new map (How hard is that?) that is "balanced" for three teams.

Jorus

PS
Personally - I am in no hurry, but I think this game is in great danger of dying a slow death unless we kick start it.

Numahr May 7th, 2010 09:27 AM

Re: Noobs and Vets II: Days of Infamy. MA, BI. 13/17. Blood Team Avail.
 
As far as I am concerned, I am also in no hurry, as long the game eventually takes off and fulfills its promises.

For this first MP experience, I prefer to stay in an alternate position rather than committing to a full-time Pretender position, so I think it would not help much to transfer me to the Blood Team anyway.


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