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Suicide Junkie August 1st, 2003 02:15 AM

Re: SE4 Stock Balance Mod
 
Topic for discussion:

Supply storage bays...
Engines hold more supplies per KT than the dedicated supply bays.

Should the supply bays be improved, and if so, how?

Taera August 1st, 2003 03:33 AM

Re: SE4 Stock Balance Mod
 
not realy, its an 'extra'. you cant put more engines but you can put more storage. and they're not vulnurable to engine-only damage.

Krsqk August 1st, 2003 03:43 AM

Re: SE4 Stock Balance Mod
 
I would say -25% or -50% to cost and add at least 250 to each level (750/1000/1250). I would prefer +250*lvl (750/1250/2000) or something similar.

Suicide Junkie August 1st, 2003 04:06 AM

Re: SE4 Stock Balance Mod
 
Taera:
So you have no problem with a 10kt engine holding the same amount of supplies as a 20kt, dedicated supply tank?

Captain Kwok August 1st, 2003 04:09 AM

Re: SE4 Stock Balance Mod
 
I wouldn't mind seeing supply components cut to 10kT with no other changes.

Taera August 1st, 2003 04:30 AM

Re: SE4 Stock Balance Mod
 
no, i have no problems.

Krsqk August 1st, 2003 05:21 AM

Re: SE4 Stock Balance Mod
 
Is that no problem from a reality standpoint or from a balance standpoint?

spoon August 1st, 2003 05:48 PM

Re: SE4 Stock Balance Mod
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Krsqk:
Is that no problem from a reality standpoint or from a balance standpoint?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's my feeling too (reality issue, not balance).

edit: deleted the bit about small ships

[ August 01, 2003, 16:50: Message edited by: spoon ]

geoschmo August 1st, 2003 06:16 PM

Re: SE4 Stock Balance Mod
 
I am going from a very fuzzy memeory here, but I could have sworn there was some issue with changing the supply components that caused the AI to start using them instead of engines, or putting too many engines on their ships, or something goofy like that. Problably should test any changes made pretty throughly to make sure they don't do that.

Pax August 1st, 2003 07:48 PM

Re: SE4 Stock Balance Mod
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:
Topic for discussion:

Supply storage bays...
Engines hold more supplies per KT than the dedicated supply bays.

Should the supply bays be improved, and if so, how?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Absolutely.

Early on, it's silly how more engiens gets you supplies faster than more supply bays. Later on, I still only add supply bays for supply-hog designs ... and even then, only if and when I hit the maximum number of engines allowed for the hull.

Right now engines get 50 supplies per kT. Starting supply bays should get at LEAST the same rate ... if not more (I suggest 75kT to 100kT as a good starting point). Ending supply bays shoudl be at LEAST four times better at holding supplies than an equivalent tonnage of engines.

Supply Bay 1 could hold 2,000 (twice as good per kT as engines)
Supply bay 2 could hold 3,000 (thee times as good per kT as engines)
Supply Bay 3 could hold 4,000 (four times as good per kT as engines)

That's how I think it should be, anyway.


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