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Timstone June 15th, 2003 11:04 PM

Re: Babylon 5 Mod
 
Well, make them a little bit more understandable for the mere mortal like me. I don't really understand anything of the sensors the way they are now. You did a hell of a job on the armor (even I get it now), maybe you could something simillar to the sensors too?

grumbler June 16th, 2003 12:43 AM

Re: Babylon 5 Mod
 
Timstone: I would like to work with you on this 2.0 mod, if I could. Maybe another forum or even a yahoo egroup would be better than confusing this effort even more, but I like the idea of taking what is here and "rationalizing" it in some ways that cannot be done without causing unexpected faults in what is a workable system right now.

SJ: What I meant was to double even component "hull" sizes when doubling output, so that the effect is identical, but yet i don't have to count to figure out whether I have 23 or 24 of these 5 kt engines on my battleship so as to make the total energy requirements work out.

The next effect would be zero, except that ships would lose their speeds due to damage in a less smooth curve. It also wouldn't take three times as long to refit a ship as to build it! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

TS: I have founf that when playing the game I actually only research the final stages in the existing reactor techs when I need something for a battleship. It is actually easier to get gravimetric reactors than A-M ones, and in general gravimetrics are better (though the small reactor is exactly like the small A-G one except more expensive).

If you want to keep some reactors out of the hands of some of the races, it should be trivial to add racial (i.e Ancient) requirements to the reactors themselves rather than to the techs needed to research them.

In fact, if you do things the way I envision, the ancients can do the same research that leads to, say, Fusion reactors for the younger races but get ancient ones instead. I mean, who believes that the ancients didn't have fusion reactors after a million years anyway!

On the issue of the sensors and ECM: the existing system seems to me to be quite intuitive and elegant. They are one of the few areas I would leave exactly as is, given my druthers (except that maybe the basic sensors get too expensive reletive to the extended and elite ones, but I haven't done the research to say for sure that this is true, and I expect SJ has!).

Timstone, if you look back at maybe January or February's Posts, SJ explained the whole thing rather nicely. It's basically a system of diminishing returns with the additional types of sensors, designed to restrict them to the hulls that can afford the space.

[ June 16, 2003, 01:06: Message edited by: grumbler ]

pathfinder June 16th, 2003 02:00 AM

Re: Babylon 5 Mod
 
Suggestions on how to get a decent, simple upload for those who want to play/use the B5 Gold MOD. The pictures folder is the hang-up. Simply too big and looks like (to me atm) that I'll have to load each race individually (bleah!).

I have WinZip V 8.1.

grumbler June 16th, 2003 02:05 AM

Re: Babylon 5 Mod
 
I think there are some free "zip" programs that are better at "crunching" graphics files than good ol' winzip.

I will have to do some research to confirm this, though. Anyone have the answer off the top of their heads?

pathfinder June 16th, 2003 02:17 AM

Re: Babylon 5 Mod
 
Not interested in another program. Just a simple methodolgy so that folks will have a simple way to d/l the MOD.

[ June 16, 2003, 01:19: Message edited by: pathfinder ]

Timstone June 16th, 2003 09:24 PM

Re: Babylon 5 Mod
 
Grumbler: Thanks for the advise, but I'll continue alone on the mod untill I have some good idea how to give people (who want to) a clear and simple job. Sorry, be patient a little longer. In about two weeks I have full time again to continue on the mod. But thanks anyway for the enthusiasm, greatly apreciated. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Timstone June 16th, 2003 10:07 PM

Re: Babylon 5 Mod
 
Hmm... we still have the biggest thread, but the Ice cream thread is closing in rappidly. We have to do something about this guys.
Come on, post like maniacs! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

pathfinder June 16th, 2003 11:56 PM

Re: Babylon 5 Mod
 
IF:In response to your e-mail and the 1.49 MOD and PBW: A very slow game to say the least. Not sure that it is condusive to enjoyable play. This is my first PBW so I have no other experiences to compare it to.

jimbob June 17th, 2003 12:02 AM

Re: Babylon 5 Mod
 
Mostly I'm posting to keep us ahead of the ice cream thread http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

PF: I've only played a handful of PBW games as well, but they were all running considerably faster than this one. I think only proportions is much slower in terms of R&D.

Still loving it though http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Especially now that we're back on track with the game turns.

Rambie June 17th, 2003 04:15 AM

Re: Babylon 5 Mod
 
Quote:

Originally posted by pathfinder:
IF:In response to your e-mail and the 1.49 MOD and PBW: A very slow game to say the least. Not sure that it is condusive to enjoyable play...
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I haven't played any other MODs, but I have played many multiplayer SE4 games.

I agree that this is a very slow game, only my first colonies have managed to build ONLY 1 facility each...

I know you want a game that's more realistic in colony building, but I feel this is way to slow. As it is, your homeworld(s) are all you effectivly have for the entire game.


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