Re: Proportions Mod Versions 2.5.2 and 2.5.3 available
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I did re-iterate the request for being able to mod that during beta. The patch notes describe a new algorithm that replaces the old threshold. IIRC it simply goes to the lowest-populated colony, unless a ship is already going there. Should be pretty effective for Proportions, given its population curve.

PvK

Re: Proportions Mod Versions 2.5.2 and 2.5.3 available
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I don't think you can. What you can do however, is change the strength of a militia unit, so it represents more or better-armed resistance.

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The point its, that infantry weights 1kt, and since a million pop weights 1000 kt, that means that one infantry have 1000 soldiers, right?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No, that's making assumptions and over-simplifying. Colonists and whatever they need to become productive citizens on an alien planet may be more or less difficult to transport than soldiers and their military equipment. It'd no doubt vary from species to species and tech to tech. With no specifics available or needed, the mod is abstract on this point. If you like thinking of it as 1000 soldiers, that's not an unreasonable base-line though.

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So if one million pop gives me one militia unit, that would mean 1000 soldiers out of one million, which seems to me completely unrealistic in the case of an alien invasion who undoubtely would unite all possible factions in any given colony against them.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I agree that resistence would be determined. However ...

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I'll say that one million pop should give 10 000 militias, or maybe even 100 000, if we assume that the local authorities would draft all abled male for planetary defense.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Though I sympathize with the intent, your argument breaks down in practice on several details.

* First, one militia unit is not necessarily the same size as one infantry unit. It would depend on a lot of things.

* Second, realize that SE4 REGENERATES the militia for every ground combat, and that in Proportions, taking a defended planet often takes many ground combats. So one combat round of militia in Proportions should not represent all the civilians who could be drafted, but only a part. Taking a populated planet quickly therefore becomes more important, as makes sense. It would also be a game balance & logic problem if the population itself could generate unlimited strong defenders every unless they could overcome it immediately.

* Third, high-tech combat probably depends more on how many weapons are available, than how many unarmed & untrained volunteers are available. A militia can then be more properly represented by having colonies build or receive some simple infantry units. If a planet fails to do this, it means the colony doesn't have any useful weapons to equip its people with. My concept for Militia in Proportions was that it represented the ability of the civilians to use improvised weapons and to support whatever troops were there. Armed civilians, militia weapons Caches, or any military-effective weapons on the planet should be represented by infantry units. I suppose it'd be good to add a unit named "militia" for clarity.

PvK

[ March 01, 2004, 19:41: Message edited by: PvK ]

Re: Proportions Mod Versions 2.5.2 and 2.5.3 available
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, think of it as the weight of the equipment. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif


<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Not a bad idea. I will do it this way. It makes sense.


<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Humm..... I hadn't thought about this... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
I guess I'm gonna have to build a LOT of ground forces and troop transports.
That will be a battle on a true Epic scale! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

I think I will comission 4 more Shipyard Bases on my Homeworld to build my invading forces. (I already have....15!)



I either take the Xiati Homeworld or I go bankruptcy. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

By the way, do the Plague Bombs kill ground forces too or only the Pops?

[ March 01, 2004, 19:51: Message edited by: SB ]

Re: Proportions Mod Versions 2.5.2 and 2.5.3 available
 

Plague bombs only kill population..but as the population dies, the number of militia will drop as well.