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Slynky August 21st, 2003 04:47 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Well...

(1) I get to make post # 1600
(2) And I was bored, so...
(3) Looked back over my KOTH games and discovered I've only played people OUT of the US...
(4) Which made me wonder...how many people are in KOTH that are out of the US -vs- people in the US. Truly a worldwide game!
(5) And finally, this post bumps the KOTH thread back to the first page where it belongs... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Asmala August 21st, 2003 05:25 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by primitive:
Holidays done, PBW back, it's time for another attack on the hill.

Asmala, put me back in at the bottom (or the base or the abyss or whatever its called at the moment) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Welcome back Primitive. You're now in the bottom of the hill but without an opponent. Perhaps soon someone dares to challenge you http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

geoschmo August 22nd, 2003 12:08 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Well if Primitive is up for a rematch I'll take another shot at the hill.

Slynky August 22nd, 2003 12:16 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
Well if Primitive is up for a rematch I'll take another shot at the hill.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, by my quick reckoning, here are 2 people who will be paired in KOTH and can make a rating game of it also.

Any takers if that is the matchup?

Asmala August 22nd, 2003 01:10 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Now when the PBW site is working again I'll do the updates to the KOTH page. If I forgot something please remind me.

primitive August 22nd, 2003 01:11 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Holidays done, PBW back, it's time for another attack on the hill.

Asmala, put me back in at the bottom (or the base or the abyss or whatever its called at the moment) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Slynky August 22nd, 2003 01:22 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by primitive:
Holidays done, PBW back, it's time for another attack on the hill.

Asmala, put me back in at the bottom (or the base or the abyss or whatever its called at the moment) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Welcome back to the "slopes" again, vile one http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

primitive August 22nd, 2003 01:31 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
The man called Primitive hefts his rusty (yet pointy) spear. The "Eye in the sky" has returned. Maybe this time he will get a poke at it. Better don your protective eyewear Geo http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif
Standard settings or a Tesco map ? I'm cool with any setting.

Slynky,
Rating is OK with me. Is there an extra bonus for beating Geo http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Phoenix-D August 22nd, 2003 02:57 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Slot me back into the hill as well.

geoschmo August 22nd, 2003 03:06 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by primitive:
Slynky,
Rating is OK with me. Is there an extra bonus for beating Geo http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">As i said in the other thread I wouldn't have joined the Ratings if I didn't intend my games to be rated. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I am game as well.

Grandpa Kim August 22nd, 2003 06:50 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
As expected, the Baron has hung me out to dry. Every encounter was a devastating loss for me with minimal damage to him. Chalk one up for the Baron.

Asmala, I will be taking a break-- a bit busy lately-- but I'll be back at a later date. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Good luck to all!

Baron Grazic August 22nd, 2003 07:06 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
What can I say?
I won't say I'm not happy to beat Grandpa Kim, because he has taught me a lot in previous games, and I was worried at the start, but I would have preferred to take the win under fairer circumstances.
After looking at the whole map - GK's side had 8 useless systems, where I only had 1. Plus the fact that I could defend a single warp point that led from the middle circle into my entire system, where GK had 3 Warp Points to defend from the centre.

Asmala August 22nd, 2003 04:55 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
KOTH page updated (again).

deccan August 23rd, 2003 11:45 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
I've surrendered to Roanon, so move him up.

This is my first KOTH game and I was outclassed from the beginning, making such newbie mistakes as building three mineral miners on a planet in a new system before remembering to build a space port, letting a heavily damaged colony ship limp around at speed 1 and suck up resources etc.

I'm a bit sick right now (fainted clean away from an antibiotic injection this morning) so I don't feel up to a new KOTH game yet. Maybe next week when I feel better. I'll let you know Asmala.

Thanks for the game Roanon and sorry for being such poor competition.

sparhawk August 26th, 2003 07:36 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Sparhawk vs kazarp.

me not like this.
30 system map and we are next to each other !@#$%^&$%^&^, sorry.. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
Is this a bug in the program, because I have this now for almost 50 % of my KOTH games....

Well maybe we could have a restart or may the fastest win

Sparhawk

geoschmo August 26th, 2003 12:51 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Yes, it's a bug.

Phoenix-D August 27th, 2003 12:48 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Phoenix-D vs Steal Dragon

This one's a Devnull game. So far I can sum it up in two words: logistics nightmare.

Slynky August 27th, 2003 03:16 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Slynky -vs- Georgig 2406.2

Tough battle brewing here. Georgig has slowly been pushing me out of his area, the north. Early on, he wiped my first colony outpost so I settled in a system one jump down. More recently, he's clobbered all the planets I colonized in THAT system. In return, I'm managed to kill 2 colonies while he's removed 5 of mine.

I suffered a bad ship loss about 10-12 turns ago and since then, both of us have been building shipcount up. But for me, minerals is a problem and even the asteroids in my area suck!

Georgig owns a lot more systems than me but of those systems, there are a several "useless" ones. I'd say we were even enough in startup that neither has a lot to complain about.

geoschmo August 27th, 2003 03:34 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Primitive -vs- Geoschmo 2403.2

We met fairly early. Before turn ten, and this is on a Tesco map too. I think maybe we were lucky on that though and both sent early ships in the same direction.

The Primitive one has made heavy use of fighters early to considerable effect. I had some problems taking them out. Much more so then I remember ever having before. Lost more then a few escorts and frigates. The ships with no PDC just can't hit his fighters at all.

I did finally overwhelm his defenses in that system and have taken a colony and few million Primitives. Though intellectually inferior we have discovered they can be taught remedial tasks well enough to be useful. And they have the advantage of being able to live on planets with no atmosphere. We are relocating them now.

So we wait for the counter attack, or if it takes too long we move on forward. More to come.

DavidG August 27th, 2003 06:06 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sparhawk:
Sparhawk vs kazarp.

me not like this.
30 system map and we are next to each other !@#$%^&$%^&^, sorry.. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
Is this a bug in the program, because I have this now for almost 50 % of my KOTH games....

Well maybe we could have a restart or may the fastest win

Sparhawk

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Since I decided from my race setup on a strategy that gambled on being far apart I have no problem with a restart if the KOTH rules allow this. Using a tesco map should eliminate the close start.

Asmala August 27th, 2003 07:52 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DavidG:
Since I decided from my race setup on a strategy that gambled on being far apart I have no problem with a restart if the KOTH rules allow this. Using a tesco map should eliminate the close start.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">When both players approve of the game restart it can be done of course. Should I use a tesco map when I restart it?

DavidG August 27th, 2003 08:20 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Asmala:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DavidG:
Since I decided from my race setup on a strategy that gambled on being far apart I have no problem with a restart if the KOTH rules allow this. Using a tesco map should eliminate the close start.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">When both players approve of the game restart it can be done of course. Should I use a tesco map when I restart it?</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So long as Sparhawk is OK with this, yea.

Slynky August 28th, 2003 02:35 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Asmala, Georgig:

I’ll be unable to process turns from Friday till Monday afternoon (I’ll be at Dragon*Con all weekend). Asmala, please set our game to ALPU till I submit the next turn. Tks.

Asmala August 28th, 2003 06:10 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
Asmala, Georgig:

I’ll be unable to process turns from Friday till Monday afternoon (I’ll be at Dragon*Con all weekend). Asmala, please set our game to ALPU till I submit the next turn. Tks.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It was already ALPU.

sparhawk August 28th, 2003 08:34 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Yes, please lets restart sparhawk vs kazarp.

primitive August 29th, 2003 12:00 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
Primitive -vs- Geoschmo 2403.2

I did finally overwhelm his defenses in that system and have taken a colony and few million Primitives. Though intellectually inferior we have discovered they can be taught remedial tasks well enough to be useful. And they have the advantage of being able to live on planets with no atmosphere. We are relocating them now.


<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That might be your story, mine goes like this http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Councellor Gratnek enters the royal bedchamber were the primitive one lays exhausted on the massive furcovered bed among an assortment of beautiful women.

- O Rancid one, I bring good tidings from the war. Your clever ruse worked. The evil ”eye in the sky” took the bait and captured our spies and saboteurs. Once we start blowing up the eyes ships and planets they will riot and destroy his production capabilities.

Their sacrifice kept "the eye" occupied for years, making him build a fleet of some 45 ships for the capture. Ships that are already outdated and will strain his economics while they will cause little trouble for our superior designs.

Now we only need to populate the 2/3rds of the galaxy we have secured for the horde. -

- I’m doing my best Gratnek, I’m doing my best. Just get out of here and send in a new batch of virgins, these are all worn out. -

Slynky August 29th, 2003 12:38 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by primitive:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by geoschmo:
Primitive -vs- Geoschmo 2403.2

I did finally overwhelm his defenses in that system and have taken a colony and few million Primitives. Though intellectually inferior we have discovered they can be taught remedial tasks well enough to be useful. And they have the advantage of being able to live on planets with no atmosphere. We are relocating them now.


<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That might be your story, mine goes like this http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Councellor Gratnek enters the royal bedchamber were the primitive one lays exhausted on the massive furcovered bed among an assortment of beautiful women.

- O Rancid one, I bring good tidings from the war. Your clever ruse worked. The evil ”eye in the sky” took the bait and captured our spies and saboteurs. Once we start blowing up the eyes ships and planets they will riot and destroy his production capabilities.

Their sacrifice kept "the eye" occupied for years, making him build a fleet of some 45 ships for the capture. Ships that are already outdated and will strain his economics while they will cause little trouble for our superior designs.

Now we only need to populate the 2/3rds of the galaxy we have secured for the horde. -

- I’m doing my best Gratnek, I’m doing my best. Just get out of here and send in a new batch of virgins, these are all worn out. -
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ahhhh, Primitive is back! Such good reading http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

geoschmo August 29th, 2003 01:08 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Yeah, Primitive won. I could have fought a while but his force was overwhelming. The end was clear.

Asmala move him up and take me back off the hill. I think maybe I got back involved too soon. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

primitive August 29th, 2003 01:25 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Thanks for a great game Geo.

geoschmo August 29th, 2003 04:56 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Asmala, strike my previous request to remove me form the hill. Go ahead and put me back at the bottom. I'll give it another try.

deccan August 29th, 2003 12:11 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Please put me back on the hill as well. The group games simply move way too slowly.

Asmala August 29th, 2003 05:57 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
Asmala move him up and take me back off the hill. I think maybe I got back involved too soon. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hmm, quite soon you got http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Geoschmo or Primitive, do you remember how many turns you played? Geoschmo has deleted the game so I don't know.

Welcome back Deccan!

geoschmo August 29th, 2003 06:20 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Asmala:
Geoschmo or Primitive, do you remember how many turns you played? Geoschmo has deleted the game so I don't know.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sorry about that. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif 47 turns. I undeleted the game in case you needed anything else. You can delete it when you are through.

primitive August 29th, 2003 06:21 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Roanon:
Looks like it's us next. At Last I get someone in the same timezone http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
I suggest a Tesco Map with 3 planets start, but I'm game with (almost) any setting.
Rating game ??

Geo:
Congrats with the shortest retirement in history. Thats a record that will be hard to break http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

geoschmo August 29th, 2003 06:33 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by primitive:
Geo:
Congrats with the shortest retirement in history. Thats a record that will be hard to break http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">ROFL! It's your fault you know. If you hadn't spanked me so thouroughly I might have been able to walk away with my head up. But I started thinking some more about how that game went and it bcame a matter of self respect. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Asmala August 29th, 2003 08:58 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Asmala:
Geoschmo or Primitive, do you remember how many turns you played? Geoschmo has deleted the game so I don't know.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sorry about that. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif 47 turns. I undeleted the game in case you needed anything else. You can delete it when you are through.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No, I need nothing else but the number of turns. Hehee, my guess (50) wasn't a bad one http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

deccan August 30th, 2003 12:32 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Asmala:

Welcome back Deccan!

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Can someone please delete the KOTH Deccan vs. Roanon game so that it doesn't clutter up my "My Games" page?

[ August 29, 2003, 23:34: Message edited by: deccan ]

Asmala August 30th, 2003 09:02 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by deccan:
Can someone please delete the KOTH Deccan vs. Roanon game so that it doesn't clutter up my "My Games" page?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Sorry I had forgotten to delete it but it looks like Geoschmo was faster (again http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ) than me because I can't find the game.

Taera August 31st, 2003 12:46 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
this is an old thing, but i forgot to post about it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/blush.gif basicly, ive lost to Lord Chane http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Geckomlis August 31st, 2003 02:32 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
K.O.T.H. GozGuy (Federation Oligarchy) vs Gecko (Andromedan Invaders)
Middle of the Hill
Game Date: 2402.2

First Contact. An acceptable interval between game start and first contact. Our win/loss records in K.O.T.H. are virtually identical, so I am interested to see how this one plays out. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Gecko

Gozra August 31st, 2003 04:21 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geckomlis:
K.O.T.H. GozGuy (Federation Oligarchy) vs Gecko (Andromedan Invaders)
Middle of the Hill
Game Date: 2402.2

First Contact. An acceptable interval between game start and first contact. Our win/loss records in K.O.T.H. are virtually identical, so I am interested to see how this one plays out. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Gecko

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes we have met and the advantage is yours for the moment. Some very interesting racial choices on Gecko's part. While I stick with conventional wisdom.
Good luck Gecko
Gozguy AKA Gozra

Asmala August 31st, 2003 10:27 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Asmala:
Sorry I had forgotten to delete it but it looks like Geoschmo was faster (again http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ) than me because I can't find the game.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, I figured that one was safe to delete since you had already updated the KOTH page about it.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Correctly figured. The only thing which I need when the game is finished is the turn number.

Roanon August 31st, 2003 11:35 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
K.O.T.H. Roanon vs. Primitive

A fairly small galaxy with starting positions not too far away. After a few territorial successes, I'm struggling to keep Primitive under control, and battling vs. my resource management. Will my poor resource management or Primitives hordes win, or do I have a chance to keep him under control? Very exciting game right now...

geoschmo September 1st, 2003 01:02 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Asmala:
Sorry I had forgotten to delete it but it looks like Geoschmo was faster (again http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ) than me because I can't find the game.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, I figured that one was safe to delete since you had already updated the KOTH page about it.

deccan September 1st, 2003 02:35 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
KOTH Geo vs. deccan

Contact established turn 2401.2.

How long can a poor newbie Last against Mr. PBW himself? Stay tuned.

Cheeze September 1st, 2003 04:53 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Asmala vs Cheeze

It's over. Last time we played, I was so outmatched I couldn't even see how much better Asmala played. That might have happened this time too, except that I played so badly Asmala didn't need to put much effort into it. Once again, I go down in defeat, but I had fun on the trip. On the bright side, I had a couple of successful attacks, I just could put together any kind of coherent offensive.

Among many things I should have done smarter was prepare defenses. With the ancient trait, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that Asmala would prepare an attack that would take the shortest route to my homeworld....just someone smarter than I was this game.

One of these days I might make a better adversary, but that wasn't today. Nice game!!!

Gandalph September 1st, 2003 07:51 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
KOTH - Gandalph vs. Joachim
Standard map and settings
Stardate 2411.3

Borders have been established for sometime. At first glance, the galaxy seems split evenly. I suspect that is not true as he has been outproducing me at every turn and has maintained a 1st place position for quite some time. There have been many battles fought in the border systems. Both of us have pushed through the border systems, at one point or another, only to be cut down by defending forces. I am only alive because my ships are technologically and militarily superior. In most battles, he has a hard time hitting me with his APB's and when he does, he has to get through my shields. My PPB's, however, are hitting him with regularity and, naturally, bypassing his shielding. Game is far from over.

Asmala September 1st, 2003 10:15 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Cheeze:
Asmala vs Cheeze
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think the game was settled by the colony ship which I was able to capture from you. Second colony tech and different atmosphere breathing population is quite unbeatable advantage.

Roanon September 1st, 2003 10:28 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
K.O.T.H. Roanon vs. Primitive

Primitive has won, having conquered my only resource planet that was too close to the border unfortuntely.

Asmala, please give me a break, maybe I'll rejoin later.

Asmala September 1st, 2003 10:46 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Roanon:
K.O.T.H. Roanon vs. Primitive

Primitive has won, having conquered my only resource planet that was too close to the border unfortuntely.

Asmala, please give me a break, maybe I'll rejoin later.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Welcome back whenever you want.

Primitive has impressive pace, a little over week and two victorious games http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif


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