Re: Will Vanheim Ever Become Spayed?
 

Ignore. No idea why I said 1/0.

Re: Will Vanheim Ever Become Spayed?
 

I've tried to cast body etheral on vans (with midgard) and mirror image seems to be turned off (some vans on the battlefield look like they were hit). Am I wrong ? (maybe did they receive some arrows). If it's true, is-it the same for all buffs ?

Re: Will Vanheim Ever Become Spayed?
 

Woah, necro-bump.

Re: Will Vanheim Ever Become Spayed?
 

Yup. Didn't remember it was so old.

But the question seems fitted to this thread. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Will Vanheim Ever Become Spayed?
 

I do that all the time-I figure as long as it's Dom3 material, it's fair game.

I had a lot of good ideas a hundred years ago! why go to all the trouble of coming up with new ones, when I can just dredge them up?

Re: Will Vanheim Ever Become Spayed?
 

100% positive that it's not the case with all buffs. I've used Strength of Giants, Legions of Steel, Iron Warriors, and Mistform on Glamour-ized troops without it knocking off the mirror images. I don't see why Body Ethereal would be any different, and in fact I'm pretty sure I've used Body Ethereal as well without that effect. Something else must have dispelled the images on your troops.

-Max

Re: Will Vanheim Ever Become Spayed?
 

I did not read this whole thread, but i think pikemen should get a 1st strike with a big attack bonus against mounted units.

That solves the van problem for several nations.

Re: Will Vanheim Ever Become Spayed?
 

Over the weekend, I played a SP game as EA Vanheim, as it seemed the easiest way to make sure I did not have to face them in the end game, yet again. Tried out the water/fire bless and was astounded. They are, quite simply, hugely powerful. I know I am repeating my earlier arguments in the thread, but having played them, it is stunning. I had fun and enjoyed the mages with E3 and a shot at E4 on a random. Throw on some boots of earth and that earth booster spell and you have an E5 or E6 mage. Blade Wind forever! I did not touch the blood magic and stopped research altogether once I realized the power of Blade Wind forever. I did not even bother attacking other nations protection, but that would have boosted the effect even more. No need to buff troops, even though those spells are available in the Earth school. I have not explored this nation much, but if it has the hidden gems like most other races, there is more strength in it yet.

The only problem I ever faced was a batch of blessed flaggelents! I had no archers, and this was before Blade Wind, so I lost some of my troops killing them hand to hand. I had considered recruiting indy archers on the therory that they would be very safe behind my powerful infantry, but couldn't be bothered, there was no need!

Sure, this was single player and sure, Blade Wind is not as valuable in MP (though I would be interested to see a team of E mages casting destruction and blade wind), but this nation is damn strong. Too damn strong.

Re: Will Vanheim Ever Become Spayed?
 

With the exception of a vocal minority, you are pretty much preaching to the choir.

Re: Will Vanheim Ever Become Spayed?
 

I just read through this entire thread.

I have to say my opinions of a couple of posters changed a bit. I won't say any more on that matter.

Just for the record I'm totally sold on the argument that Vans are overpowered, singleplayer or multiplayer wise. I also think the CB mod does a good job of toning this down resulting in a more enjoyable game.