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Well, pritty much all my underwater assets have been busy trying to deal with R'lyeh, while the aboveground teleport-caple SC's you're dealing with on land didn't have any worhtwile R'lyehans to target until recently. It's as simple as that, really.

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wow, I didn't notice until now that LA miclan is on AI. You must have done some good damage there Amhazair.

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There are actually not many players left that have over 5 provinces.

The Winds of War have picked up. A storm is coming. While the Lizards desire peace, that elusive state has eluded us thus far. No peace for the Lizards this game.

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LA Mictlans demise is an example, why weaker nations should never become the puppet state of a bigger empire, as they usually die doing their masters bidding.

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I'd rather suggest LA Mictlan's demise is an example of what happens when weaker nations gets sandwiched between the three biggest superpowers in a 60 player MegaGame. Kicked in the nuts by one then the other...all three offered me friendship at one point but you can only play both ends of that for so long when they're at each other's throats (which is, in fact what ends up getting you kicked in the nuts repeatedly). End game dominions is not something you have a lot of control over unless you're already holding a big stick by that point. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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Well you played well with a bad hand I would say. Not easy starting on that small island and being surrounded by strong water nations.

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Ewww, nasty turn. You just won't give up that capital without a fight eh ?

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I Concur. Horrible, Horrible turn.

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On a positive note, there are about 100 less storm demons and demon knights terrorizing the land, and I am trying to decide if some of these Lanka mages are worth the gor cost?

Killing Lanka off is community service. MA Ctis is opening a
bazaar with fine food-featuring all sorts of demon dishes. The food is free, but charitable donations of nature gems will be graciously accepted.

All told, the war with Lanka has cost the Lizards 100,000 gold, 400 d gems, 400 e gems, and 400 nature gems. Piddly amounts to be sure to the superpowers, but very draining on the tiny Lizard Empire.

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Well, I just came home from a fun friday-evening going out, and I won't look at my turn till tomorrow, but this sure sounds like I want to see it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

@ Baalz: Aye, your position wasn't the easiest one, but you certainly managed to be a pain in the ***. Upon being jumped by 4 different nations the logical move (I think) was to try to take out one of the less powerfull ones as fast as possible, to free up one front and then use those freed up resources against the big guys, but you managed to annoy and delay me so much that my position was a lost one before you succumbed.

In my (not too big) MP career we came accross each other twice now, and both times I was clearly the stronger nation, but both times you showed me you could do a lot with limited resources. I'm looking forward to the time we actually manage to face each other on equal terms, I think it will prove quite a challenge.

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Aw, thanks guys. Had a great time myself and look forward to more nut kicking in the future. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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Grrr. That pretender is really having a bit of luck with mind duel...

On a side note the noble and charasmatic bogus has joined the empire of R'lyeh http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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How is Bogus adjusting to the Mind Blasting Horror from Beyond the Stars?
"Stop asking me if I'm insane yet!"

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First he was rather rude, and being rather violent. After a starspawn stepped in and made some adjustments to his brain, he became rather friendly. He does drool since the "procedure" but atleast he seems happy.

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Mmmmm. Squamous.

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You think? How do you figure that? As far as I can see you marched 3 starpawn with 1 pearl each into my capitol, killed 2 minor astral mages with 2 of your duels, and then lost the one duel you had with my pretender, with your starspawn having one less astral than the Great Oroboros (Prince of Primeval Depths, yada, yada,ya...) Looks like a perfectly average result to me.

(Oh, and btw: Come in and face Oroborosses wrath if you dare! You great pussy, twiddling your thumbs and admiring the sights of the great city of Oceania from outside the walls... Phah! I spit on the grave of your snail-eating mother and fart in your general direction. Or something along those lines. (At least we would fart if we Oceanians weren't too civilised to engage in such conduct. ) )

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Oh, we dared all right http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

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Thanks for the fun game all, I promise to do better in Perpetuality 2.

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And in a wild night of retribution Lanka's Capital was burned to the ground and its 600 hp Monolith banished for an eternity of suffering in a fetid jungle full of rock-cracking vines.

Lanka's army of 2-3 e and 2-3 f GOR Ghost Mages summarily dispatched, along with scores of evil sorcerers, and various other evil mages.

MA Oceania has gone AI, and the once mighty LA Atlantis Alliance is reduced to rubble. Lizards shout joyously in the streets waving spears with demon heads affixed to their points.

With Lanka's demise all but a formality, MA Ctis eyes turn south, piercing shadow and fog, and see new threats to meet.

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We will miss you, our ancient brother. We have to admire your chutzpah for holding out for so long. [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Grenade.gif[/img]

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Bones, Lord of Night, abandons all pretense of deception. With the LA Atlantis Alliance destroyed, eons of warfare has ended. A most hated and wretched foe enslaved.

MA Ctis has these relationships:

MA Pangaea-6 turn nap
EA Pangaea-6 turn nap
LA Abysia-3 turn nap
MA Ryleh 10 turn nap
MA Ermor 1 turn nap(expires AFTER next turn)
MA Pythium and MA Tien Chi-mutual defense pact against LA Ermor and his allies.

While the Lizards desire peace, they are now in a position to honor its Mutual Defense Pact should either Tien Chi or Pythium be attacked. Be warned that MA Ctis, while not a major power, can be a thorn in the side of a major power.

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Seems that the game soon will enter the deciding phase.

LA Ermor is sitting in the middle, and so might come to fight a multifront war soon, on the other side ermor has a nice buffer of Vassals around him to take the first punch. But who will stand after the dust settles MA Agartha? LA Rlyeh? MA Ctis me (MA Pangaea), or will EA Pangaea break free from his master and become strong on his own?

To follow Xietors example here are are the relationships of MA Pangaea

MA Ctis 6 turn NAP (the lizards are our friends since we where together surrounded by the LA Atlantis alliance)
EA Pangaea 3 turn NAP (our older bretheren are under the evil influence of Ermor, but we hope that they can break free or we might have to free their population)
LA Ermor: as honourful people, we have agreed to give them the message of our invasion 3 turns before the attack. (some would call this a 3 turn NAP)
MA Oceania: we had to conquer this nation to save it from the cold grip of LA Ermor we where able to save most of its population but there are still parts of it unguarded by pangaean troops.

Pangaea is a nation of joy and live and so we only fight when there is a higher cause for it, so if someone should decide to hurt our swampdwelling friends we would be forced to help them.

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Message from LA Abysia.

The great people of the flamme had a lots of diplomatic contacts, but the memory of our great lords, the mighty sunshine, is not so good ... frequent ressurection, you know.. Vapor from hell, etc...

But i remember that i'am surrounded by friends.

A friend in particular is MA Ctis and any evil people who threaten him may face a more serious threat than some naked strange lizards...

Stelteck, prince of the flamme.

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Of the original 62 players, only 15 remain that own 5 or more provinces.

Why the clammers have not dispelled Ermor's globals continues to baffle the Lizards. What exactly is the point of clamming if you do not dispel globals?

You cant take those s pearls with you into the next game-so spend them!

As an aside I am awed by the amount of gems Lanka must have had at his apex. He had at least 20 gor ghosts, all empowered to 2-3 e, f, or both. The gem cost to do that is staggering. He also empowered many, and mean MANY, of his other mages.

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Yeah...please someone with clams do this....

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Id eat my lizard tail if there is a water race without clams out there......

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LA Pangaea resents the notion that we are under the yoke of LA Ermor. We are a free nation. A nation that desires the death of all those who would destroy the forests... yes, and we might use some death magic to achieve that end yes... but a free nation all the same.

In other news, several Harpy reporters died while trying to report news from the MA Tien Chi homelands. We regret their loss, but we have many other reporters on the way to the front. Reports from the battlefront will be delivered.

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Eh, well... So much for the trash talking I guess. Maybe I should leave it for people who're better at it than me, and just concentrate on f#@*#ing giving my godd*@mn pretender the gems he fr#g*@@ing needs to cast bl@$t#d Master Enslave.

Not that I'm mad at myself or anything...

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"LA Pangaea resents the notion that we are under the yoke of LA Ermor. We are a free nation."

And they say Lizards talk with a forked tongue! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Your pitiful race has attacked Tien Chi. Prepare for war!

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Your dang Pans spilled all the tea. Now the alchemists have to make more.
No biscuits for you, LA Pan, as you no longer deserve biscuits.

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But tea and biscuits for MA C'tis, and any of Tien Chi's friends and allies who stand with us in our hour of need. Our alchemists brew innumerable gallons of the finest tea for you as we speak.

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The upper half nations of the Western Continent will not go down without a fight. United we stand-divided we are enslaved!

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Actually, we brought biscuits, plenty of them. Free biscuits for anyone who surrenders to LA Pangaea.

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Well, if it is war you want, then war you will get. Unfortunately, we don't even know where you are. But we will send some intrepid Harpy reporters out to find you.

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we are not exactly sure where you are either. MA Ermor has uncovered all of our spies(:

Nevertheless, we WILL find you.

Fear the Lizards!

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It's a trick! Do not be tempted by those tea and biscuits no matter how tasty they are! Just take a look at those bloated, big bellied, hog faced "celestial" servants under Tien Chi's employ. That's the result of one too many cups of their tea and biscuits. We've just had to clear out a whole legion of those poor sobs. Our troops were so moved by the sight of those pitifully overweight creatures pausing in the middle of the fight to gobble down more of those biscuits that we decided to let them go.

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Will these upper half nations of the Western Continent please stand up and be counted? We need an accurate count of the attendees so that we would be able to prepare an appropriate welcome.

My advise to those that are leaning with the forked tongued lizard's war call: Make sure your leader is risking as much troops and resources as he is asking you to risk. For the fourth largest nation in terms of both Provinces and Gem Income, and Third Largest in terms of Gold Income, the slippery lizards do not need your aid. His sending a couple of token SCs and a small 100 troop army to the border hardly counts as a serious undertaking from the Number 4 contender. Make sure that after this war is done, that he does not gain at your expense. Let history serve as your guide.

And to make matters clearer, our best guess is that MA C'tis Capital is at least 15 provinces away from our border using the shortest route possible.

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Shortest route between point A and B is Astral Travel.

...Astral Travel + one province, should domes be excessively used.

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Bah, so few mages with the ability to cast astral travel http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smirk.gif

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Anyone attempting to astral travel to MA Ctis will be in for a surprise. /lizard teeth. But by all means try. MA Ctis welcomes astral traveling mages into its dominion. Much better to fight in our dominion than without.

Bimini, pretender of MA Ermor, he of unholy breath and last among Ermors, the turn after next, when the Lizards NAP with your plaugeinfested empire expires, you will glimpse the extent of the Lizards' commitment.

MA Ctis' neighbors have already witnessed the extent to which the Lizards devote themselves to War in the defense of the Swamps against the LA Atlantis Alliance and subsequent dismantling of EA Lanka.

And make no mistake, MA Ctis has not expanded at the cost of any peaceful neighbor. But yet again, MA Ctis is called upon to defend the lands of a peaceful nation from foreign invaders.

MA Pangaea and LA Abysia have enlightened leaders. They fully understand that having a small, peaceful neighbor like Tien Chi replaced by aggressive LA Ermor Allies is not in their interest.

MA Ctis has lost more than Bimini can imagine in its long war with Lanka. So you will have to forgive the Lizards
for having a "small army" and a "few sc's" on your border. Beware! Lizards breed rapidly. :grin!

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Ah yes, again the lizards call on the spectre of the "Humongous LA Ermor Alliance" to coerce its neighbors to war. That was the same line used against the LA Atlantis Alliance, that they are allied with LA Ermor. To sum it up, anyone who does not agree to attacking those the lizards dictate is an ally of LA Ermor. Now that your attempts to convince LA R'lyeh to attack us have failed, why don't you shout out to the whole world that LA R'lyeh is a vassal of LA Ermor.

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To state once again, LA Pangaea is not a vassal state of LA Ermor. We are attacking MA Tien Chi because we need more money. That is all. They appeared weak, and we need territories. We appeal to our Pangean brothers not to attack us. We mean no harm to them.

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And of course, the wily lizards have also asked MA R'lyeh, our long time peaceful neighbor to attack us, which of course, they have turned down. Who have the lizards not asked to serve as their chaff?

And where is MA Pythium in all of these? For such a potentially powerful nation, with medium provinces, gem and gold incomes, MA Pythium has a pitifully small army, and we have yet to see evidence of any Pythium SCs. Furthermore, MA C'tis freely trades MA Pythium lands back and forth. In fact, MA Pythium's highest income earning lands right smack in the middle of their territory are owned by MA C'tis, and have been so for since we started tracking the past 30 turns.

We have the answer to why these things are so. MA Pythium as a nation does not exist. MA Pythium exists only to serve the interests of MA C'tis. MA Pythium exists only to funnel resources and angelic troops to MA C'tis. So when you tally nation strengths, MA C'tis and MA Pythium are one.

And to all those who have fought the lizards now and in the years past. How many of you have heard this line?

"Doouusss noootsss battlllesss oursss troppssss, ish iss usseelesss yousss caanttss winsss, seennddsss yooursss trrooppss too figghttss ouursss aallliesss innsteadsss, whoommss wee haveesss askkks tto ffigghttss you toooo, ssoooss thhhaattss weeessss doooo nootttsss dddieesss andd ourrrssss guiillibbleess allliesss ddiesss loottssss."

Let the nations of Perpetuality know the Lizards for who they are, a cunning, sneaky, powerful, aggressive race, led by a master tactician. They are neither weak, nor peaceful, nor the victims of any conflict as they profess over and over again. And over again.

*Bow*

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I struck me how few nations from the early and late era that are left in a fighting position (EA Pangea, LA ermor, LA Rlyeh). Meanwhile the middle era nations are doing great, with atleast 5-6 nations with a fighting chance and one "giant" (Agartha). Anyone else wondering why the middle era is going so strong in this game ?

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I would say the EA Nations are missing the armor, so they cant win army battles. And the MA Nations tend to have stronger magic than the LA Variants.

And then i think that there is a lot of randomness involved as its just one game.

For example what i have seen is that:

EA Tir na n'og and LA Man where ganged and did not have much of a chance.

And i personnaly killed EA Sauromantia and LA Ulm and both where played by medicore to bad players.

LA Atlantis got afk and was set to AI.

So 5 EA and LA nations where defeated, without you can say that the nations would be weaker.

Also Xietor had around 50 turns to defeat Lanka, if lanka not would have had much player change and stales, then maybe one more EA nation and one less MA nation would be in play.

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Hadrian-The Lizards were holding their own against Lanka with K, but certainly made no headway until he left. Once K left it was like night and day. Lanka started making crucial errors they did not make under K's guidance. Yes the war did last 50 or more turns. A bloody affair. Defeating Lanka was a community service that is lost on MA Ermor and other nations that did not witness Lanka's might. But my neighbors in the North understand what the fight entailed. And the task was further complicated by Lanka's access to the forge and aid by many powerful allies.

Lolomo-you crack me up. Your Lizard imitation was very funny! But the Lizards a power? ha. You do realize that the 3 major powers own twice the gem income, and provinces of Ctis, not counting their numerous clams and globals-of which Ctis has none.

Pythium actually defeated EA Caelum on his own, and owned 3 capitals before we entered a mutual defense pact. SO I would say pythium is a bit better than you think. He is certainly not my vassal. Why would any nation be a vassal to a 2nd tier power?

I own zero high income provinces in pythium's area. Try a swamp province with income 17. So your spies are blind or ill informed. At one time I owned many Pythium provinces, but that was because my sc's were reclaiming lands from EA Mictlan who was(and still is) at war with Pythium. Pythium reclaimed those provinces from me ages ago-as i am sure MA Rylah can attest.

Pythium did allow me to move armies through his lands to reach a border with MA Ermor. MA Pangaea did the same for LA Atlantis and MA Oceania when they attacked me. That did not make MA Pangaea a vassal of the LA Atlantis Alliance-it simply meant he was not ready to fight a war over the issue.

Tien Chi, Pythium, MA Vanheim, and MA Ctis formed an early mutual defense pact to guard against LA Ermor expansion. If you go back to early pages of the thread, MA Ctis offered to lead the resistance against LA Ermor once Honeybadger died.

And these nations took me up on my offer. So I aided them as I could manage. Regrettably LA Ermor stormed MA Vanheim while i was barely holding on myself fighting 4 enemies, and was unable to aid him. Tien Chi and Pythium were in no position to fight LA Ermor either. So the mutual defense pact did not help MA Vanheim(:

MA Ctis' defense of Tien Chi honors a longstanding mutual defense pact against LA Ermor expansion. And the fact that MA Ctis is trying to fight a war many provinces from its home lands shows the integrity and honor of the Lizards.

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Thanks for the tea, Tien Chi. My commanders were able to grab a few cups as they fled. Unfortunately, most of my Pans were killed by giant earth elementals before they could enjoy any. A shame... they so love tea.

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No tea for you! Bad man horsies!

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We of MA Pangaea strongly resent to call Centaurs horses.

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Hehe... I seem to remember another game thread where you called centaurs horses and I had to 'politely yet insistently' remind you to change your vocabulary. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif