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se5a December 11th, 2003 07:31 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
this is turning out interesting...

I started more in the middle than Phoenix-D, which is giving me a bit of an advantage, I have tryed to cut him off from the systems on the other side of me, whether he will manage to squezze past me or not will be interesting...
he has got a number of my ships with mines, and a copple with his kamakazi colonisers...
my stand-off missile ships seem to be holding there own for now, though he has a higher mineral ext raceal advantage than I do, which is starting to show a little, however I think I may have a nasty suprise in store for him....

Slynky December 11th, 2003 01:22 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Well, it looks like se5a is having fun http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

BBegemott December 12th, 2003 04:13 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
RexTorres vs BBegemott
King Match
10 starting planets + Tesco Map, other than that- default
Turn 2404.2

RexTorres has got initiavive from the start. I have never been the first in scores.

The game turned out to be talisman vs intelligence. And talisman is winning that war. RexTorres is attacking me with 3 fleets of at least 25 ships each. And each warship has talisman of course. I was trying to stop him at the warps, but my kamikazes and ship captures appear too far away to inflict some real damage.
Besides, it is the first time I'm facing talisman in multiplayer game. And i must say I really like it. Maybe I'll try it out myself in my next game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

So I'm in trouble. Really big trouble. Delay the inevitable- that's all what I can do.

Slynky December 12th, 2003 05:10 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Tks for the update. Rex is usually pretty quiet. Oh, and sorry to hear about your situation.

geoschmo December 12th, 2003 05:37 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Hmmm, the hill seems to be thinning out in the middle. I know a level was added at one point to unclutter things, but now I'm sitting with no opponent, as is Slynky on the level below me, and there is only one match running on the level below him. Everybody else is in the bottom section, except the two curently fighting for the crown and Asmala waiting in the wings. Looks like it could be a while before I get another opponent.

Nodachi December 12th, 2003 06:31 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Nodachi vs Alneyan
Just as soon as Aleyan satisfies my curious nature and attacks my homeworld I'll be surrendering.

This one started out very well, but I seemed to get lost somewhere. As soon as I lost first place in the scoring Alneyan started beating the tar out of me. Good job and good game! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Alneyan December 12th, 2003 06:41 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
My apologizes, I am still waiting for my minesweepers to actually be in position and for this resupply depot to come Online, as my little taskforce is somewhat running low on supplies. Afterwards, as I am very curious, I will do something. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

In fact, my own strategy was a very slow development in the early game, focused on mine defences and expansive (and expensive as well) colonization. It only paid off since turn 40 or so, with a increase by ten times of my research potential. (From around 65k per turn to 650k per turn now) Obviously, the galaxy was much bigger than usual (about 50 colonizable systems) and very friendly to oxygen breathers, especially for gas giants. You had me worried with your frigate fleet, even if these were close to a black hole and too near my minefields. Good game, but I am afraid the end is now very near. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

geoschmo December 12th, 2003 06:43 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Keep trying Nodachi. You will win one one of these times, and when you do it will be sweet! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Nodachi December 12th, 2003 06:45 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Oh yeah, I almost forgot.

Alneyan, http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif I screwed up your record! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Slynky December 12th, 2003 07:08 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Nodachi vs Alneyan...

650,000 research per turn http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

What the heck turn are you on?

Alneyan December 12th, 2003 07:15 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
About 850,000 research points on turn 75, which ended in the destruction of the Norachi Empire after the collapse of the Last stronghold. Obviously, we are on a bigger map than average, as I had about 45 colonized systems in my greedy hands, and all three colonizing technologies. (Even if I didn't bother to use Ice) Computers were researched as well to increase this amount. I only built so many research centers because we were playing with a high technology cost, but even then, research is very cheap. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Do not worry Nodachi, I lost a mere two games in a row on KOTH, so the record was not too high. Not yet. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Asmala December 12th, 2003 08:43 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
So Nodachi, Alneyan, is your game over? I see Nodachi has uploaded a turn file.

Alneyan December 12th, 2003 08:51 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Yes it is, as Nodachi Empire has been removed from existence the turn before, and as such I gather his turn file was empty. For statistics purposes, the game ended on turn 76 and the settings were: good start, 100,000 resources, high tech cost and no racial points.

Nodachi December 12th, 2003 08:53 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Yeah, it's over Asmala, Alneyan got me. Please move him up. Sorry about the upload, force of habit.

Nodachi December 12th, 2003 08:54 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Ack! Alneyan you beat me again! This time by two seconds! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[EDIT: Ok, two minutes! I can't tell time now and I can't blame it on my cat! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ]

[ December 12, 2003, 18:58: Message edited by: Nodachi ]

Asmala December 12th, 2003 09:42 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
OK. KOTH page is updated.

I still consider if I should merge the top and crest of the Hill. There's lot of empty slots now but I think many of the bottom games are going to end soon.

Asmala December 13th, 2003 11:12 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
OK, I have considered enough now and I decided merge the top and the crest of the Hill.

parabolize December 14th, 2003 12:32 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Grandpa Kim vs Parabolize
turn 76
I surrender. The organic race i had modeled around my game with Gecko just can not make it through grandpa's Sats. Grandpa got a dagger in a hole of my armor and i cant do anything but try stoping my people from rioting.
GOOD GAME http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
thanks to primitive for the map.

[ December 13, 2003, 22:36: Message edited by: parabolize ]

Geckomlis December 14th, 2003 01:40 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by parabolize:
Grandpa Kim vs Parabolize
turn 76
I surrender. The organic race i had modeled around my game with Gecko just can not make it through grandpa's Sats. Grandpa got a dagger in a hole of my armor and i cant do anything but try stoping my people from rioting.
GOOD GAME http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
thanks to primitive for the map.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, any of the KOTH or Ratings regulars would probably agree that I am a .emp maniac and not an appropriate subject for modeling. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Grandpa Kim December 14th, 2003 02:55 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Timmyland Gang (Grandpakim) vs. Hammer Heads (Parabolize)

(translation of the original Timmy talk to English by Grandpakim.)

:-) [synopsis]

Timmy! ? Ahh!

[Contact! But Timmy is confused by the strange empire design. Ah ha! He means to ram me!]

Yawn....

[A long period of jostling and consolidation with loss of some lightly held Timmyland systems.]

Gobbles!

[Timmy unifies the disputed system of Eurul and captures some enemy population.]

Gobbles? Bye, bye. :-(

[Timmy wins another fleet action at the entrance warp to Lenoltris preparatory to capturing the system... but the Hammer Heads immediately abandon all half dozen or so colonized planets.

Timmy!! Gobbles, Gobbles, Gobbles!!! :-D Uh!

[Several more positive fleet actions and two fleets begin gobbling Hammer Head planets in two different systems. Unfortunately, like ships in the night, one of those fleets and an enemy fleet pass each other unnoticed in a nebula system and Lenoltris is once more occupied by an enemy fleet, one perfect for a fleet action but singularly inappropriate for planetary attacks.]

Gobbles. TIMMY!

[The planetary captures continue but finally, a situation smoldering for a couple years erupts.
The Hammer Heads pass a fleet of 130+ ships into Xillanthra to battle 60+ Timmyland ships and 100 medium sats. When the dust clears, the only remaining force is 94 sats. A victory for Timmy. And for the first time in the game Timmy moves into first place!]

TIMMY!!!!!

[Victory! The Hammer Heads surrender... and no wonder, riots everywhere.]

Grandpa Kim December 14th, 2003 03:03 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Parabolize, thanks for a fascinating game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

And thanks to Primitive too, for a great map! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Asmala, set me up for another game. I'm ready! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Asmala December 14th, 2003 11:15 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Grandpa Kim:
Parabolize, thanks for a fascinating game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

And thanks to Primitive too, for a great map! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Asmala, set me up for another game. I'm ready! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">One would think the map is always great for winner. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

It's good you're ready but there's no opponent for you.

Slynky December 14th, 2003 08:49 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Slynky -vs- Geoschmo 2401.2

Slynky surrenders. Not to besmirch Geo's playing ability 'cause you've seen me talk about me being scared of him several times http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif , but starting in the corner and him in the middle, him having fighters (and therefore me needing PD escorts for my colony ships in order to expand out of the corner), him being in 1st place now for the Last half of the game, and him able to expand west, north, and northwest without any need for worry is just a game better left in surrender for me.

Glad to see you in the slot for the King, Geo! Go gettum!

geoschmo December 14th, 2003 09:31 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Well, I am not one to look a gift horse in the mouth, so I will accept your surender. However, I do think you tossed it in way too early. The advantage of being in the center of the map was more than accounted for by the complete lack of colonizable planets in and around my home systems. My choice of Gas Giant for this game was somewhat the cause of this, as I only had two available planets in my home systems, but the six systems around me were all dead ones. At the time you surendered you outnumbered me in planets 24 to 17. In fact I believe the sparseness of my systems was the cause of me being in first place so early on, as I had 15 colony ships searching around for some place to land. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

It probably spooked you to see the carriers on the front line, but you might be interested in hearing they were empty of fighters as I had not had enough time to fill them. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif They did have some weapons, which would have been good for defending the warp points, but I wouldn't have been able to root out your colonies for a while without minesweepers.

Given this was our fourth game and my first win against you though, I'll take it whatever the circumstances. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Geoschmo

Slynky December 14th, 2003 09:39 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
I must have had around 15 (give or take) colony ships running around...OH...they had nowhere to go...'cept for a few smalls and tinys.

No matter the carriers didn't have fighters...they could have loaded them in a few turns. And no need for you to go on the offensive anyway...put the fighters on the warpholes (you were in every system I needed to go through to get out to the "frontier") and dare me to send any colony ships through without adequate escort. Meanwhile, you continue taking the other two thirds of the map.

Even I can see a 30-turn game with the same rusults.

NOW...I expect you to surprise them on the hill! Good luck http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif .

Asmala December 14th, 2003 10:52 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Page updated and one new player added: welcome Electrum!

Nodachi December 15th, 2003 01:09 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Nodachi vs Parabolize - Not started

This could prove to be interesting!

Settings:
Devnull Mod 1.7
medium spiral arm (no black holes)
no events
medium tech cost
no intel
100000 resources
1 good home world
low tech start
5000 racial points

I always say that I'm the one to play if you want to try unusual settings. I guess Parabolize is taking me up on it! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Joachim December 15th, 2003 04:51 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Primitive V Joachim

We surrender to the hordes....

Well done Primitive and thank you for your sportsmanship. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I only got Chem from the ruins, did you get anything good?
I would be gratefull for any hints/tips/comments you had on the game.

Cheers again.

se5a December 15th, 2003 07:48 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
well I think Im gona surender soon.
I dont know how he did it but althogh I have colonised over two thirds of the galaxy he still managed to have a massive amount of ships.
I guess that he had a lot more mineral plannets on his side than I did, the better mineral extraction his race has probibly helped to...

Asmala December 15th, 2003 06:08 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Hmm, it just occured to me how quick game Slynky vs Geoschmo actually was. It started and finished during the same day. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif It's unique even though it Last only about a dozen turns.

Phoenix-D December 15th, 2003 06:18 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by se5a:
well I think Im gona surender soon.
I dont know how he did it but althogh I have colonised over two thirds of the galaxy he still managed to have a massive amount of ships.
I guess that he had a lot more mineral plannets on his side than I did, the better mineral extraction his race has probibly helped to...

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Having 23 colonies of mineral value 100% or greater helps. Especially when 6 of those are breathable..

EDIT: not to mention running my mineral storage to the bone at times.

Oh, and you almost cut me off but not completely..one more system to the north, and I probably would have had a hard time of it.

[ December 15, 2003, 16:25: Message edited by: Phoenix-D ]

geoschmo December 15th, 2003 07:43 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Asmala:
Hmm, it just occured to me how quick game Slynky vs Geoschmo actually was. It started and finished during the same day. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif It's unique even though it Last only about a dozen turns.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I've had a few that played out to completion over a weekend, (and not always with me the victor) but I don't think I've ever had one finish in a day either.

Geoschmo

primitive December 16th, 2003 12:00 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Joachim:
Primitive V Joachim

We surrender to the hordes....

Well done Primitive and thank you for your sportsmanship. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I only got Chem from the ruins, did you get anything good?
I would be gratefull for any hints/tips/comments you had on the game.

Cheers again.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, Thank you for your sportmanssip allowing the second restart http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Only got Research 2 of usefull stuff fom the first batch of colonies, but as soon as I developed Ice the techs started flowing in. Didn't have the time to get much use out of them though.

As your little sypship must have told you, my starting position was quite a bit better than yours so I had the advantage from the start. I would have had to screw up to loose this game.

I'll send you an e-mail with some additional reflections.

Geckomlis December 16th, 2003 12:50 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
K.O.T.H. Kazarp vs Gecko
Default KOTH + No Intelligence Projects
Tesco Map

Date: 2405.0
The Dundas Rednecks Clan empire has been completely destroyed. They are no more, sire.

Thanks for a good game, Kazarp. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif And, yes in fact, lots of people have told me:
“…that you can't win with… that bizarre race setup!?” I am a contrary Gecko. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif I think you were countering nicely up the point I rolled over your warp point defense in Atull with ~50 ships. If I had waited one more turn to launch the attack, you would have had another 10 light cruisers defending – which might have wrecked my offensive. Wave Two only had 16 ships, many of them support ships.

I ascend the Hill again, condemning the Dundas Rednecks Clan to remain in the KOTH recycler. Grrr… Primitive moved up before I could get to Grandpakim.

-Gecko

Grandpa Kim December 16th, 2003 04:49 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
From Gecko:

"Primitive moved up before I could get to Grandpakim."

Gulp! Am I the new "victim-of-choice"?


>>Odd. I couldn't get the quote button to work...<<

Slynky December 16th, 2003 04:55 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Grandpa Kim:
From Gecko:

"Primitive moved up before I could get to Grandpakim."

Gulp! Am I the new "victim-of-choice"?


>>Odd. I couldn't get the quote button to work...<<

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It's us OLD people, Grandpa. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Phoenix-D December 16th, 2003 05:01 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Don't worry too much Geckomlis. I think at this rate you'll have an opponent shortly. Or not, because if I can't demolish se5a fairly quickly, this is going to get real messy (his research greatly outpaces mine, except he went for drones and troops)

Geckomlis December 16th, 2003 05:31 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Grandpa Kim:
From Gecko:

"Primitive moved up before I could get to Grandpakim."

Gulp! Am I the new "victim-of-choice"?


>>Odd. I couldn't get the quote button to work...<<

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It's us OLD people, Grandpa. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Comments like that will belong in the How old are you? thread. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif I never target any demographic! Actually, I was just looking forward to playing against someone new. That is the best way to learn. You know: travel the quadrant, meet new and strange races, and then conquer them.

Geckomlis December 16th, 2003 05:40 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
Don't worry too much Geckomlis. I think at this rate you'll have an opponent shortly. Or not, because if I can't demolish se5a fairly quickly, this is going to get real messy (his research greatly outpaces mine, except he went for drones and troops)
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hell, even I have given up on drones. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Phoenix-D December 16th, 2003 05:57 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
I must admit he surprised the heck out of me. Almost made me call off my attack until I remembered that mines stop drones. If they didn't things would have gotten very unpleasant.

se5a December 16th, 2003 07:54 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
yup, I have come to the conclusion that drones cost to much and take to long to build to be worth it.
(they do make a nice suprise though)
2 thirds of those drones were just a core and engines, I hoped I had enough to clear any mines you might have had, but not quite it seems...

and shouldent that be "his research greatly outpaces mine, even though he went for drones and troops"?

well I damaged one of your fleets Last round...

Phoenix-D December 16th, 2003 06:30 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Close enough, and yes you did. Too bad I still have others. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Iansidious December 16th, 2003 11:51 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Could someone post a link to PBW web site? I'm to lazy. I reallly thought I had it in my Favorites but I don't. Thanks

Phoenix-D December 16th, 2003 11:58 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
http://seiv.pbw.cc/

Iansidious December 17th, 2003 12:10 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
http://seiv.pbw.cc/
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Thank you.

Grandpa Kim December 17th, 2003 03:29 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Grandpa Kim:
From Gecko:

"Primitive moved up before I could get to Grandpakim."

Gulp! Am I the new "victim-of-choice"?


>>Odd. I couldn't get the quote button to work...<<

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It's us OLD people, Grandpa. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Little do they know, we old farts can take all the pain they can dish out. We live with it all the time. It's the losing we can't stand!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

>>Well, the smilies work, but the buttons don't! Okay, who's in charge of this lash-up? I demand satifaction! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif <<

Slynky December 17th, 2003 03:34 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
"...It's the losing we can't stand!!"

As Marlon Brando would say, "The HORROR, the HORROR...". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Grandpa Kim December 17th, 2003 04:12 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
"...It's the losing we can't stand!!"

As Marlon Brando would say, "The HORROR, the HORROR...". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">In Primitive's case, I'm gonna "Make him an offer he can't refuse." http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

primitive December 17th, 2003 01:38 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Grandpa Kim:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Slynky:
"...It's the losing we can't stand!!"

As Marlon Brando would say, "The HORROR, the HORROR...". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">In Primitive's case, I'm gonna "Make him an offer he can't refuse." http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well thank you. In SEIV the only unrefusable offer is surrendering http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

A bit premature after 3 turns, but who am I to complain. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Alneyan December 17th, 2003 01:54 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Actually I beg to disagree with the Most Primitive. Slynky did turn down my offer for a surrender until he had a look at the poor state of my Empire. So surrender is not *always* an offer you can't refuse. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif


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