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Narrew September 16th, 2003 12:41 AM

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Damn, I read that with no problem. I guess that would be a good way of "hiding" the text right out in front of everyone, well it would have to be people that don't speak English well.

Slinky, your a funny guy, saying all that AND from Atlanta *chuckle*. I do agree with you, I do not think of myself as a prejudice person, but when I can not understand someone speaking, I have a lower opinion of that person (of course if English is a second language, I can give ALOT of slack for that), I was with a co-worker at an AM/PM and the guy behind the counter spoke horrid English, and my buddy said something to the effect "why can't people that come to this country learn to speak clear English" and the guy behind the counter said "why? I was born here.". Very sad.

Grandpa Kim September 16th, 2003 01:53 AM

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Originally posted by oleg:
Still, can anybody test the original hypothesis to be a true and universal universal statement of human mind function or an another anecdotal freak of English language ?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I can and did test it on Jake's original post.

It slows me down! Yes I can puzzle it out fairly easily but I can read much faster when all words are spelled correctly-- and so can you! Even an everyday misspelling like "lite" in place of "light" slows me down. Observe your own reading; I'll bet poor spelling slows you down too.

Kamog September 16th, 2003 08:38 AM

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Originally posted by Andres:
Mnareil penatls are teh bset.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It took me a few seconds to read this one. Actually, for a couple of moments I could not decode Mnareil and penatls, but by seeing the Last three words I immediately recognized the entire sentence.

dogscoff September 16th, 2003 10:42 AM

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Toward". Take a look in the dictionary and you will see an acceptable pronunciation of, "twardz", as if there was an "s" on the end of it...sheesh!
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Towards is the accepted British use of the word. Same with preventative (I find it hard to believe there is such a word as "preventive")

oleg September 16th, 2003 02:49 PM

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Originally posted by Mephisto:
Remember, you have to scramble it first. The below german text is spelled correctly (well, at least I hope so http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif ).
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oh, I see now http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

oleg September 16th, 2003 05:14 PM

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http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I was wrong - it works not only in English.
Here is scrambled Russin translation. I could read it almost like a normal text !!

по рзелульаттам илссеовадний одонго анлигйсокго унвиертисета, не иеемт
занчнеия, в кокам пряокде рсапожолены бкувы в солве. галвоне, чотбы преавя и пслоендяя бквуы блыи на мсете. осатьлыне бкувы мгоут селдовтаь в плоонм бсепордяке, все-рвано ткест чтаитсея без побрелм. пичрионй эгото ялвятеся то, что мы не чиатем кдаужю бкуву по отдльенотси, а все солво цликеом .

dogscoff September 16th, 2003 05:25 PM

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Oleg, I have to agree with you. I can read that russian text with the exact same level of ease I would read normal russian...

Slynky September 16th, 2003 05:40 PM

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Originally posted by dogscoff:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
Toward". Take a look in the dictionary and you will see an acceptable pronunciation of, "twardz", as if there was an "s" on the end of it...sheesh!

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Towards is the accepted British use of the word. Same with preventative (I find it hard to believe there is such a word as "preventive")</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, referring to Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary (copyright 1985...we have some old stuff in the government... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif ), "preventative" is listed. The definition is simply, "preventive". So, look a bit lower and you see, "preventive". THERE, one can see the real definition. I happen to know about this word in particular since I started in the computer business over 30 years ago and it was routine business for IBM to schedule preventive maintenance. The additional sylable, IMO, came along sometime afterward due to the inability of people to look at the word, preventive, and pronounce it correctly. And then, people just added it to the dictionary instead of simply saying, "There's no such word as 'preventative'."

Alneyan September 16th, 2003 06:02 PM

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My own dictionary lists preventive as the "correct" spelling, while it was written in 2000 or 2001 and is rather British. Truth is hard to find when it comes to Languages or even linguistics, so I gather other dictionaries disagree with that I wrote above. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

As for your rant a page before, I would partially agree. (And yes, I read it and care about your opinion http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) I wrote "partially" because I cannot speak of how English-speakers felt when coming in France for obvious reasons. I don't know about your hypothesis to explain this hostility or at least, this distrust from the French government, which would be linked to the choice of an "universal" language to be used in airports . To use English as the basic language in such cases is sensible IMO, simply because English is speaking much more widely than French to begin with. French was perhaps an universal language before, but that was five or six centuries ago so. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Nevertheless, I have to admit French usually have an issue with English, many barely know this language, and there are some who, even if they are fluent in English, are reluctant to use that language. I'm wondering, is such an attitude common in other countries or is that yet another oddity of France?

narf poit chez BOOM September 16th, 2003 07:03 PM

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just so we have an opposing arguement, preventative sounds more like a word for something that prevents, while preventive sounds more like a verb.


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