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Atrocities December 31st, 2003 06:57 PM

Re: Do you like Klingons?
 
Believe me when I say it is modeled after a Klingon Bird of Prey. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

oleg December 31st, 2003 08:20 PM

Re: Do you like Klingons?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">
for a minute I thought someone sent Paramount after you again!

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">again? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You mist all the fun then ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Not much fun for Atrocities it was though http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Clue: search the old archives for "man of the war"

PvK December 31st, 2003 08:51 PM

Re: Do you like Klingons?
 
It appears the movies really confused Romulan and Klingon ship designs when they made the Star Trek III film. I read the original story called for a Romulan ship, but typical Hollywood pandering to the lowest denominator decided it should be Klingon. Meanwhile the design's abilities (cloaking device, powerful central torpedo, green paint job, name "Bird of Prey" - since when (before ST3) did Klingons care about birds?) remained Romulan-like. I suspect this simplification is probably responsible for a low of post-ST3 Klingon ship design.

PvK

Renegade 13 January 1st, 2004 12:04 AM

Re: Do you like Klingons?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by oleg:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">
for a minute I thought someone sent Paramount after you again!

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">again? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You mist all the fun then ! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Not much fun for Atrocities it was though http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Clue: search the old archives for "man of the war"
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Better yet, search the old archives for member number 3174. I just spent about 2 hours looking at the old Posts and I must say that guy who caused that whole mess was not such a nice guy. (It was an interesting read though http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )

Atrocities January 1st, 2004 12:33 AM

Re: Do you like Klingons?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by PvK:
It appears the movies really confused Romulan and Klingon ship designs when they made the Star Trek III film. I read the original story called for a Romulan ship, but typical Hollywood pandering to the lowest denominator decided it should be Klingon. Meanwhile the design's abilities (cloaking device, powerful central torpedo, green paint job, name "Bird of Prey" - since when (before ST3) did Klingons care about birds?) remained Romulan-like. I suspect this simplification is probably responsible for a low of post-ST3 Klingon ship design.

PvK

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">True, ST 3 was to have Romulans, but Paramount opted for Klingons instead. ST 3 was a ground breaking movie for many reasons. It was the first movie that we saw:

Klingon Bird of Prey
Grisson Class
Ingram Class (Excelsior)
Space Doc
Humor
Vulcan (in some detail)
Surek (Spokes dad)
etc.

I think it was a very good movie given the limited budget and Nimoy's limited director experience.

But up until that time there was never an offical Bird Of Prey ever listed for either the Romulans or Klingons. (However I have read that the Romulans and Klingons did continue to swap designs up unitl the battle of Khitomer which led to the destruction of the Enterprise C.)

PvK January 1st, 2004 01:05 AM

Re: Do you like Klingons?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Atrocities:
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But up until that time there was never an offical Bird Of Prey ever listed for either the Romulans or Klingons. (However I have read that the Romulans and Klingons did continue to swap designs up unitl the battle of Khitomer which led to the destruction of the Enterprise C.)

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Maybe not official (?), but I see the classic TOS Romulan ship design called "Bird of Prey" pretty consistently - for example, on this modelling web page.

Moreover, all the TOS Romulan ships had hunting birds painted on them, including the ones which used Klingon D7 hulls. I don't remember any Klingon allusions to birds at all in TOS.

PvK

Fyron January 1st, 2004 03:06 AM

Re: Do you like Klingons?
 
Does it really matter? The ships look good (in blue). Who cares if they are strictly canon?

[ January 01, 2004, 01:06: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

narf poit chez BOOM January 1st, 2004 04:06 AM

Re: Do you like Klingons?
 
Quote:

Does it really matter? The ships look good (in blue). Who cares if they are strictly canon?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">i don't. i just like the green better.

PvK January 2nd, 2004 12:55 AM

Re: Do you like Klingons?
 
I don't really care if they're canon or whatever. In fact, I don't care about anything post TOS / Star Trek VI. I was just chatting.

PvK

Atrocities January 2nd, 2004 01:46 AM

Re: Do you like Klingons?
 
Your right, there was a Romulan Bird Of Prey. My apologies. The Romulan BOP was from TOS. But in TOS they established that the Romulans and Klingons traded technology and ships. So it is entirely likely that both the Romulans and the Klingons in the TOS movie era had simular BOP designes.

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