Re: OT - How would sc-fi ships do in battle against each other?
 

Just in regards to which ships are faster, ST or SW's, I believe the answer would be both...from a certain point of view http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

When you see the SW's vessels jumping from one side of the galaxy to the other with Hyperdrive engines, you have to admint that the Hyperdrive engine is faster than Warp, considering travelling from one side of the galaxy to the other. ST ships are unable to do this.

That being said, ST ships can travel at warp, and are capable of using warp propulsion even during battle. Thus in real space, ST ships would have a speed and manuverability advantage over SW's vessels, due to ability to reach faster than light speeds locally.

I hope this make sense!

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Nice. I don't usually tolarate fanfic, but that one caught and held my attention.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'm not sure this would translate to an advantage in combat. ST vessels can engage in combat at warp speed with other vessels going warp speed. I don't remember ever seeing an example of a ship travelling at warp firing on a ship travelling at impulse. There have been a couple examples of ships doing warp manuvers in combat for fractions of a second to suprise an enemy (as in the Picard manuver) but they always make a point of how hard on teh engines this is supposed to be. Only something to be done in cases of extreme emergency. Typically you'd need to match speed with your opponent in order to effectively engage them. Consider how difficult it was for the early jet fighters to engage prop driven enemies in late WWII and Korea. A big speed advantage is great for getting to or away from a fight, but in combat, not so much.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The republic at it's height, and the empire after it spanned the galaxy. The federation is a little collection of planets in a small fraction of the Alpha quadrant. Assuming the SW galaxy is roughly the same size as the Milky Way, which we don't really know of course, hyperdrive would have to be orders of magnitude faster then warp drive. Travel between Corsucant and the remotest parts of the galaxy takes weeks. While Voyager was looking at several decades to make it home running flat out at top warp speed. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Looking at it from that angle, I can see your point. But remember, the SW ships have to follow pre-programmed routes, which must have taken hundreds of years to accumulate as the Old Republic was expanding and discovering new systems. On the other hand, the ST ship can go in almost any direction at almost a drop of the hat.

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Hyperdrive seems like the equivalent of transwarp technology employed by the Borg.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">i don't know much about them. i only read 1.3 culure novels. could they stack up against DW's planatiod's?

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Re: OT - How would sc-fi ships do in battle against each other?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The republic at it's height, and the empire after it spanned the galaxy. The federation is a little collection of planets in a small fraction of the Alpha quadrant. Assuming the SW galaxy is roughly the same size as the Milky Way, which we don't really know of course, hyperdrive would have to be orders of magnitude faster then warp drive. Travel between Corsucant and the remotest parts of the galaxy takes weeks. While Voyager was looking at several decades to make it home running flat out at top warp speed. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Looking at it from that angle, I can see your point. But remember, the SW ships have to follow pre-programmed routes, which must have taken hundreds of years to accumulate as the Old Republic was expanding and discovering new systems. On the other hand, the ST ship can go in almost any direction at almost a drop of the hat. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That isn't quite true. Nothing says you can't use a hyperdrive route that is not pre-programmed. It is just dangerous flying through stars and such, so you use a galaxy map to avoid them. ST handles this by saying that ships moving at warp speed just go through everything that is not going at warp speed or some such technobabble.

Re: OT - How would sc-fi ships do in battle against each other?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">The republic at it's height, and the empire after it spanned the galaxy. The federation is a little collection of planets in a small fraction of the Alpha quadrant. Assuming the SW galaxy is roughly the same size as the Milky Way, which we don't really know of course, hyperdrive would have to be orders of magnitude faster then warp drive. Travel between Corsucant and the remotest parts of the galaxy takes weeks. While Voyager was looking at several decades to make it home running flat out at top warp speed. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Looking at it from that angle, I can see your point. But remember, the SW ships have to follow pre-programmed routes, which must have taken hundreds of years to accumulate as the Old Republic was expanding and discovering new systems. On the other hand, the ST ship can go in almost any direction at almost a drop of the hat. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That isn't quite true. Nothing says you can't use a hyperdrive route that is not pre-programmed. It is just dangerous flying through stars and such, so you use a galaxy map to avoid them. ST handles this by saying that ships moving at warp speed just go through everything that is not going at warp speed or some such technobabble. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">ST has those giant deflector dishes to sweep junk out of the way when travelling real fast. Torpedoes can even be fired at FTL speeds, though energy weapons can't.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">i don't know much about them. i only read 1.3 culure novels. could they stack up against DW's planatiod's?

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Ladies And Gentlemen, Do We Have A Contender? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Obviously I've missed reading a few books in the past. Who or what is The Culture? Which series can I find it in, and who was the author? I've only got one Honor Harrington book, and I'll wait until I get the whole series before reading that.

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Grege, go to www.baen.com . they've got a websubscription thing where you can get the Honer e-books for like $9-10 canadian, including tax. plus, the first two Honer books are up on their free library, where you can read both books, the whole of both books, for >free<.

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