Re: SE IV The End Of An Era.
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I dunno,i played civ3 since the original release and didn't think it was that bad of a game,but then again i modded it to my liking and really didn't play civ2 all that much

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Compared to Civ 2 Gold or Civ 2 ToT, the original release of Civ 3 was a joke. Hacked out multiplayer, modding was really hard to do (still rather hard to do, no convenient text files to edit http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif ), combat is greatly screwed up in Civ 3 compared to how it was in Civ 2, lack of a scenario folder until one of the expansions, absurdity of how the resource system is set up (didn't find any iron or gunpowder? Too bad, you are screwed), those stupid cultural victories ruining otherwise good games, lack of the ability to use 4 maps in one game for different planets or different layers of a planet (or other ideas), lack of an events system, lack of most of the cool abilities added in Civ 2 ToT, and so on. Certainly, it has a few nice features, but they are far outweighed by the lack of the ones they cut out and the fact that you must spend a huge sum of money to buy the game and both expansions, even though there is really nothing new added in the expansions that was not in the Civ 2 expansions. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

Re: SE IV The End Of An Era.
 

Well,looking at it that way.You're right,but unfortunatly that happens all too often when a game becomes popular.They lose sight of what made the game good to begin with and care less about the fan base that got them to where they are.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">This is exactly why I am playing SEIV. I agree 100% I even stopped testing for Firaxis due to their poor excuse for a sequel. I was fed up right after PTW. The XP's, both of them are only a slight improvement. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif I am glad I found SEIV.. and this thread. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">And that is when you stop supporting them with your hard earned cash.

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who has time for real time games ????

would kill the long games ....

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How so? Combat would still be executed by the computer for MP games... it is not as if the entire game would be real time, or as if the combat would require the players to execute it manually.

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Hand grenade thrown in 'cuz I've been drinking:

name a real time game that hasn't sucked?

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That would not be very productive. I forget their titles, but there have been TBS games that used real time combat in the past that worked out well. BOTF had real time combat, and it worked decently. Too bad the game had no custom ship design.

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The Combat Mission series uses real-time to execute the turns; otherwise it plays like any other turn based game.

Real-time combat in SE5 would change -nothing- for PBW games since the computer runs the combat anyway.