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Boron August 6th, 2004 11:37 PM

Re: Pricing of Mages ... is it balanced?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by tinkthank:
Cohen, to illustrate KO's point:

Both Tien standard and Tien S&A mages cost 250 gold, but the S&A mage gets TWO randoms AND a strat-3 flying movement! And this is a Good Thing. (Bad would be: if they cost more, or the standard CM cost less.)

btw, I think that S&A CMs are great, my favorite mage in the game bar none, and with good gear, they can cast almost any spell in the game. I love them.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">not quite .
i think Cheezeninja was quite clear . an cm has S1** that means he can be killed too easy by mind duel . they don't get good / high enough randoms for good conjuration forging easy too .

so i think pretty true against ryleh , arco + pythium the cm might suck extreme .

PvK August 7th, 2004 12:06 AM

Re: Pricing of Mages ... is it balanced?
 
Unless you have an astral king with them...

tinkthank August 9th, 2004 10:17 AM

Re: Pricing of Mages ... is it balanced?
 
Quote:

&lt;/font&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana"&gt;quote:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;hr /&gt;&lt;font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana"&gt;Originally posted by tinkthank:
&lt;strong&gt; Cohen, to illustrate KO's point:

Both Tien standard and Tien S&amp;A mages cost 250 gold, but the S&amp;A mage gets TWO randoms AND a strat-3 flying movement! And this is a Good Thing. (Bad would be: if they cost more, or the standard CM cost less.)

btw, I think that S&amp;A CMs are great, my favorite mage in the game bar none, and with good gear, they can cast almost any spell in the game. I love them. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;hr /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana"&gt;not quite .
i think Cheezeninja was quite clear . an cm has S1** that means he can be killed too easy by mind duel . they don't get good / high enough randoms for good conjuration forging easy too .

so i think pretty true against ryleh , arco + pythium the cm might suck extreme .

Well to each his own, I disagree completely. I donÄt know what you mean with "good / high enough" randoms, I think 2 randoms is quite awesome in my eyes. I am bound to get a 2S CM very very soon, and that gives my Starshine Skullcaps, which I try to mass produce asap. But whatever, if you think they are not good, that is fine with me. I basically only wanted to illustrate why price/value calculations cannot be globalized: Tien Chi is a perfect example of why a mage with abilities PQR and a gold cost of XYZ is *balanced* even when compared to a mage with abilities PQR+2 and a gold cost of XYZ-1.

Boron August 9th, 2004 11:08 AM

Re: Pricing of Mages ... is it balanced?
 
i love that mages are not balanced but nations otherwise it would be boring http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
i myself don't like the celestial master anymore though because of my mentioned reasons tinktank http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
i use them only for research , sitesearch , forge but not for combat .
i love tien chi s&amp;a but they are really difficult and i can't play them well http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

tinkthank August 9th, 2004 11:50 AM

Re: Pricing of Mages ... is it balanced?
 
I agree that they are very difficult, Boron. I enjoy them, however, and find that especially in mid-late game, almost nothing beats a decked-out CM.

Norfleet August 9th, 2004 01:07 PM

Re: Pricing of Mages ... is it balanced?
 
Well, nothing, except a handful of cheap S1 mages scripted to duel, anyway. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif


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