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lebarjack August 31st, 2004 03:37 PM

Re: Patch 2.13 available now
 
Half borked??
I tried rehiring some mercenaries in a game and it starts with half the initial price, as stated in the 213 changelog.

Thufir August 31st, 2004 04:08 PM

Re: Patch 2.13 available now
 
I'm seeing a new bug with the new patch - I'll post the details in the bug thread, but basically if tab out and tab back in occasionally the rendering is kinda hosed.

DeathDaemon August 31st, 2004 05:08 PM

Re: Patch 2.13 available now
 
Although I like nation specific pretenders, I still dont find the Great Warlock for Abysia and Skratti for Jotuns to be viable choices, despite their slight advantage over similar human pretenders. But maybe thats becuase I find rainbow pretenders are only really effective finding gems that your national mages and their summons can use, and that I also tend to use site searching spells. However, more choices are always better http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Thanks for the continued Dominions II support!

Edit: Why doesn't the Skratti have any water (cold) magic? I'd have removed the frost father and replaced it with the Skratti.

NTJedi August 31st, 2004 05:35 PM

Re: Patch 2.13 available now
 
I haven't seen anything in the details for the patch... but has anyone noticed any improvements with the AI??

examples= more aggressive, more heavy troop-types, more researching, etc???


If not... then maybe that can be the focus of the next patch.

Arralen August 31st, 2004 05:53 PM

Re: Patch 2.13 available now
 
..would be great if it at least would build forts now.
Does it?

Nothin' about it in the readme... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

Sheap August 31st, 2004 06:30 PM

Re: Patch 2.13 available now
 
The Great Warlock is not really any better than any of the other nation-specific rainbow mages. He simply has heat and fire resistance, so he fits with other Abysians, and a point of blood, but 1 point of magic is not a big difference on a human(oid).

The Skratti, on the other hand, is great. He is tougher than a Virtue, and people use the Virtue as a SC. Now, granted the Virtue's lightning resistance is better than the Skratti's cold resistance, and the Virtue also flies, and can give you an air blessing. On the other hand, the Skratti will have a much easier time gaining access to water/earth/nature magic for buffing, and of course, he's a *rainbow mage*, not just an SC. Easily top of the heap as humanoid pretenders go, and maybe even in the top half overall. His only real downside is bad dominion, as with all rainbows.

Gandalf Parker August 31st, 2004 06:40 PM

Re: Patch 2.13 available now
 
Quote:

NTJedi said:
I haven't seen anything in the details for the patch... but has anyone noticed any improvements with the AI??

examples= more aggressive, more heavy troop-types, more researching, etc???


If not... then maybe that can be the focus of the next patch.

Or not depending on who you play. Well maybe more research but only if it can be tied into the AI settings which Im guessing would be a Dom3 thing.

Gandalf Parker August 31st, 2004 06:43 PM

Re: Patch 2.13 available now
 
Quote:

DeathDaemon said:

Edit: Why doesn't the Skratti have any water (cold) magic? I'd have removed the frost father and replaced it with the Skratti.

The Frost Father is one of the forms which must be there in support of Dragons. The 3 human forms have to be there.
The dragons and their human forms arent high on the pretender scale but the fact that the dragons are supposed to make it unclear which form you chose is part of their theme.

Johan K August 31st, 2004 06:45 PM

Re: Patch 2.13 available now
 
As Mosehansen pointed out the linux patch is no good. It only containts files from 2.12 due to some bad archiving. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif

New linux patches are on the way.

Stormbinder August 31st, 2004 06:54 PM

Re: Patch 2.13 available now
 
Good patch Johan, thanks a lot! Many good changes and bug fixing. I especailly like improved cheat detection, if it prevents gem/castle cheats that was described in several threads recently. Item moding is also great.


The only big thing that I failed to find in that patch is that old lifedraining and Mirror Image bug. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif Currently Mirror image does not work at all vs Lifedraining (you can and will be lifedrained for fatique, while your mirror image stay in place.) At the very least it does not work, or it may actually make you *more* prone to be lifedrained. Any chance that it'll be fixed? IMHO lifedraining weapons are a bit owerpowered as it is atm, based upon simple fact that 90%-95% of SCs in MP games uses them. This bug gives them another boost, something that they don't really need.

Anyway, thank you for all your hardwork and continious support for the game!


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