Re: OT: gmail for SEIV people
 

I've read it. I've also read this. There are just some things that, while the arguement looks sound, the conclusions are completely bunk.

For one, their arguements about government access to email through subpoena applies to ALL e-mail services. Even if you run your own. The only difference with running your own is you get to know about the subpoena under PATRIOT, since you're also the administrator. As for other countries, if Zimbabwe decides to take control of some google servers in that country, sure, they might have access to some of my email. They'll also have royally pissed off a lot of people. And if the Zimbabwe government tried to just access *my* email (for whatever reason), you don't think Google would raise a stink about that globally?
Then there's the small arguement about tracking cookie which can be deleted at any time, nullifying the value google would get from it. And then a rant on the supposed evil-ness of Ad-words, when it's well known that advertisers just pay to have their ad show up on pages where certain words come up. Yes, that means "law" will bring up ads for law firms, even competing ones, and "perscription" will bring up drug importers, even in an article criticizing those importers. Amazing how a paranoid article can be seeming to call for an omniscient AI to serve up all our ads...

Anyway, I just had to vent on the tin-foil hat brigade for a while. I was only offering the gmail accounts, that doesn't mean y'all have to take them (invites are used up for now anyways). Who knows, I could be wrong, and now the NSA knows I'm a progressive leaning college student with interests in science, computers, philosophy, and music. I'm so scared http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif

Re: OT: gmail for SEIV people
 

Where can I get me one of those tinfoil Gmail hats? They sure look nice. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif As already stated, the paranoia applies to any email provider... Gmail is nothing unique. Yahoo is now giving out 2 GBs of storage space for paid members and 100 MB for free members. Hotmail is supposed to be increasing their storage space, but I have not seen that happen yet...

Re: OT: gmail for SEIV people
 

Okay, sorry if I offended you.
So this whole thing is just one big advertising campaign to lure people to hotmail. I can live with that, why not take advantage of it? But I don't need that much room (1Gb http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif, that is a lot for just a e-mail account). I can't imagine they can offer that much space without any alternative motive (what, paranoid? Me?).

I shall alter my answer to: "Thank you very much for the offer, but I don't need it."
My apologies for making you a bit irritated.

Re: OT: gmail for SEIV people
 

Their ulterior motive is to attract customers that are using existing free email providers...

Re: OT: gmail for SEIV people
 

I have 1 invite left. Who wants it? Brianeyci already requested one, so he gets it. So that covers him and Karibu. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

6 New Invites!
 

6 new invites hot out of the oven. Get 'em while their fresh! [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon05.gif[/img]

Re: OT: gmail for SEIV people
 

Oh, no offense was taken to you, or anyone here. Just at the ones who actively try to spread their paranoia to everyone else about stupid things. It's good to realize that this isn't an entirely altruistic offer from Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, or any other free email provider, but to act like one is evil incarnate while ignoring the same properties in other services is just wrong.

And my invites were filled up a day later than previous estimates (mid-day Friday instead of mid-day Thursday), so I now once again have six invites. For whomever wants one, of course. Just reply/PM with an address (and appropriate bot confusion mechanisms like {AT} and -DOT- )

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4 invites left. Get 'em while they're hot! [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon05.gif[/img]

Re: OT: gmail for SEIV people
 

Will got me one, and Im willing to share as well. Just be aware that I can't read the forums as often as I would like to. You could email me at instar_m at hotmail dot com

Re: OT: gmail for SEIV people
 

Well I was filled back up to 6 invites today, and I only gave out 2 of the Last batch... [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon05.gif[/img]