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Gozra February 3rd, 2005 07:57 PM

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Well The american police state strikes a nerve in me. We can see at this moment in time that Security in all phases of american life is if not the topmost concern in the top ten at least. When I saw this Titor thing I had several conflicts with it. But after reading the original exchanges little tidbits began add up.
1. Mad cow desiese is becoming more wide spread including deer and Elk populations in the midwest and recent research shows that just about all tissues are suspect and it is jumping from species.
2. Titor is asleep when he time travels for a soldier( I was in the Marines) you sleep when you can and that statement lends itself to authenticty.
3. The sabbath was moved back to Saturday. Very interesting as the Bible indicates that the Sabbath should be on a Saturday.
4. "internet nodes" I have done research and this technolgy is just now in it's infancy and it is being aimed at small towns and rural areas.
5. In just this past year solar cells new and improved are getting ready to enter the market.
6. Open sourced programming is just now starting to nibble at the Quality of our software and pushing improving it.


I am looking for seeds of the predicted civil war and I am hard pressed to detect it. But I think back on the War of northern aggression and wonder if more than a handful could see a fullblown war coming. With our 20/20 hindsight it is easy to pick out the signs.

As far as the american police state and noticing that more and more people are going to jail and wondering when the next terriorist attack will occur and the militant supporters of the anti-republicans and the a weird fact that hardly anyone trust the media.
Well this Titor fellow is hitting close to home. I hope most of it is just coincidence. But it does not hurt to be cautious.

Suicide Junkie February 3rd, 2005 08:21 PM

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Baron Munchausen said:
A degree doesn't make you automatically right. The 'debunker' makes several obvious mistakes himself, such as the mass of the black holes. It is clearly stated in Titor's posts that they are around 200 pounds each, so that the machine is around 500 pounds total. And yet he insists on claiming that he couldn't possibly have a machine that size with a metric ton (2,200 lbs) of black holes in it. Well, since he doesn't claim to have one, the impossibility of this 'fact' doesn't amount to a 'disproof' of anything, does it? This is called the 'straw man' in logic. A fake rebuttal of something that the other party didn't claim.

He was being generous with the extra weight.
A truck sagging ton is the biggest size you could hope for without blowing the whole story on a blatantly obvious level.
Unfortunately, even with a hole of 10^12 kg you can't keep TWO electrons in the hole.
Making them smaller makes them even more insanely unstable.

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PS:
Ignorance of the law is no excuse for supposed violations.
Would you believe him if he claimed to have a perpetual motion machine, just because he dosen't know how it works?

NarfsCompIsBack February 3rd, 2005 08:39 PM

Re: America the Police State
 
This thread needs a sanity check, methinks.

Instar February 3rd, 2005 10:22 PM

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Cthulu bless america and the republican party. Don't choose the lesser evil, vote Cthulu

narf poit chez BOOM February 3rd, 2005 10:25 PM

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Hah! If you want the greater evil, vote Virigar.

* Virigar eats puny Cthuhlu. Or however you spell it.

Instar February 3rd, 2005 10:25 PM

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Well, technically if you wanted to vote the evil ticket you could vote for me...

narf poit chez BOOM February 3rd, 2005 10:29 PM

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You don't strike me as particularly evil.

Raging Deadstar February 4th, 2005 07:50 AM

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Atrocities said:
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Makinus said:
I donīt remember who said it, but it is true:

"One person is intelligent and reasonable, but a group of persons is a beast controlled by basic and irrational instincts."

Men In Black. - Tommy Lee Jones

Ahh yes. "A Person is smart, people are dumb, dangerous panicky animals and you know it!" So true.

Oh, Atrocities, Thanks for the laugh today, When you mentioned the french revolution thing a while back all I heard in my mind in an evil over-stereotyped french voice was "Say Bonjour to Madame Guillotine!" http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Alneyan February 4th, 2005 08:31 AM

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You should vote for Stisnera when you cast your ballot Narf. Only she can create true happiness, and politics will be greatly simplified once she arrives to power. Besides, she is both a woman and belongs to a minority (the Tieflings), so she is certainly the perfect candidate for another kind of democracy. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

AMF February 4th, 2005 10:46 AM

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Gozra said:
But I think back on the War of northern aggression...

I am SO not going to bite. Look at me not biting. Not at all.

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