Re: ANGRY!!! Squish!
 

I think I can find better wallpapers.
http://www.wizards.com/magic/images/...ountainart.jpg

Re: ANGRY!!! Squish!
 

Bah! I precision-SQUISH! you all with my ultra-secret, darn-super-dastardly ueber-doom weapon!

Re: ANGRY!!! Squish!
 

I'd like to suggest that KDE and Gnome be merged. We don't really need both of them.

Everybody who agrees with me, switch over to the new "KDE+Gnome Should Be Merged" thread. If everyone on that thread agrees, then we will table a motion to have it done next weekend.

Re: ANGRY!!! Squish!
 

Personally Ive been using linux for years and I dont use either one so I could care less.

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Gandalf, I agree. As long as my favorite shell is available (/bin/emacs), my favorite email reader (/bin/emacs), the best of all IDEs (/bin/emacs), an excellent text editor such as (/bin/emacs), a great news reader like (/bin/emacs), and maybe a few games like Freud or Adventure in (/bin/emacs), then I am happy.

"And then, children, the horrible goblin-ogre _VI_ came and bashed their heads in and ate their brains using it's head-bashing/brain-eating mode...."

Re: ANGRY!!! Squish!
 

i squish you, macs, with your superior screen candy, your 3D effects, and your wicked user interface. not to mention your high price, lack of games, and encouraging the kind of user paradigm that "it should just work". should being a dirty dirty word, and having nothing to do with reality. e.g. when a mac user's account on yahoo isn't working for them, they may blame their IT dept, they may blame BellSouth, they may start dissing their ISP, they may call the public library for help, or some other random act that doesn't make any sense at all because they have no idea how to troubleshoot or use logic or work something out for themselves or even have an approximate grip on reality. the mac mentality encourages this. i am NOT saying all mac users are this way, just that i know waaay too many who are.

also, I squish crows. a flock just flew in to my yard and are harrassing the hawk who lives outside my window. jerks.

Re: ANGRY!!! Squish!
 

Hey, I don't think emacs has real shell functions, right? Just a front-end mode for external shell programs.

But then, I almost agree with this: emacs is most of the interface you need. The only thing is, with today's habits people have with email, emacs isn't too good a mailreader - too many attached files and HTML garbage.

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You can use Emacs for most things, but yeah--for many regular shell functions you have to "shell out". I was just kidding around a bit.

Although I did set emacs as my shell for a day (back in '92 I think) to see how well it would work. The next day I went back to bash. ;-)

I'm guessing Gandalf likes bash or tcsh and uses screen as a multi-desktop task-switcher. I used to do that, but I have to admit I have been spoiled by GUIs. First the mac, then xwindows, now I use Gnome for the most part. If I had to link in to my servers on a low-bandwidth connection, I would definitely still use screen+bash (or maybe a compressed vnc).

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I SQUISH pervert Uh-Nu-Buh, because he doesn't understand Kate is way hotter than emacs. http://www.kate-editor.org/
(kate in debian/ubuntu repositories)

As for shell, yakuake owns. It combines Quake usefulness, stability, quality, flexibility with Linux's fun and convenience of use. Seriously, the best console you can get.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YaKuake
(yakuake in debian/ubuntu repositories)

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Kate is really nice. However, Emacs takes more ram, is slower, provides more features like the Psychoanalysis module (yes, it is JUST as good as going to a real psychiatrist), an Adventure game builtin, and more more more.

Sure, if all you want is a fast, feature-filled text editor with a great plugin architecture and DCOP supoort, then Kate is swell. But if, like me, you NEED something that has a dozen calculators builtin (financial, reverse polish, mortgage, scientific, etc.) an IM chat client, a PIM, a vocabulary builder, a calendar, chess, go, nethack, minesweeper, elite, sudoku, poker, email, news, life, pong, snake, tetris.... Then you need Emacs. Even now they are working on incorporating Dom III into Emacs--with all kinds of extras--tutorial, mismatched mod statements, unit worth calculator, map editor....

Emacs is the IT of IT.