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K December 5th, 2007 12:19 AM

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jaif said:
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Via stupidity mostly. I had to empower in one air, air helmet him then cloud trapeze because I was unaware of his limitations. Worked in SP. Probably not the best choice, but it worked. Took several provinces all alone before getting red hearts.

I don't understand this at all. I summoned a treelord just now in an SP game just to see what they were like. They only have 2 misc slots, and their branches are 15 point attacks - hardly anything special. On top of that it's nature magic, which is hardly that offensive. So what do I do with a treelord besides give him a magic carpet and use him to summon defenses and creatures all over?

-Jeff

Treelords, as far as I can tell, have one purpose.

You cast Transformation to turn them into non-unique moose, and then run around with Nature 4 moose-mages. Resummon, and repeat.

vfb December 5th, 2007 02:09 AM

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You can use them to cast Nature globals, then when someone comes looking to kill whoever cast the global, they can pretend they are just an ordinary tree.

RamsHead December 5th, 2007 03:55 AM

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Rathar said:
To derail..

How does one make an effective Dragon SC pretender?!

I have been messing around a fair bit and all I can seem to produce is something which has a 50% chance of taking a weak (militia, hvy infantry, archer) province and almost always picks up 1-3 afflictions the next time they try it and then are done until I have chalice or etc etc.

I know I am just sucking somehow as I see you folks speak of them as being great for province clearing and early expansion but I just cant seem to do it!

Here is what I usually try..

I take a dormant dragon, usually fire, and give them more fire, at least 3 water (quickness) and I have been trying earth, nature, and astral of 3 min also. The 3 value is to enable the dragon to still be able to cast spell in that magical area when in dragon form. I am decking them out in whatever helmet I may be able to afford, usually horror or the nature/gore attack one, a luck misc and a regen misc or reinvigor or things like that. I usually play with an indy level of 9-8 but I have this trouble on 6 too so..

Any clues?

I know vfb gave some advice already, but so will I. If I am using a red or blue dragon, I set usually set him in the center and far back. I give him fire*5 then attack closest orders. He will walk into range and spit out some flames/frost, and then, if the troops are not already on him, he will fly the short distance and attack. I have consistently taken indies doing this without awe and rarely getting afflictions. Obviously certain indies should be avoided, but your general ones can be taken down without much effort.

Shovah32 December 5th, 2007 05:21 AM

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*Deleted for stupidity*

mathusalem December 5th, 2007 06:12 AM

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vfb said:
You can use them to cast Nature globals, then when someone comes looking to kill whoever cast the global, they can pretend they are just an ordinary tree.

LOL http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Shovah32 December 5th, 2007 12:51 PM

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An ordinary tree with a face? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Tichy December 5th, 2007 12:53 PM

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As long as he doesn't sneeze, he's fine.

Humakty December 5th, 2007 01:01 PM

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I just can't imagine a moose transformed treelord running all other the place, casting ToM on every missile/spell caster he stumbles upon....

DigitalSin December 5th, 2007 07:36 PM

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Hooray for non-unique meese!!

Meglobob December 5th, 2007 07:51 PM

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K said:

Treelords, as far as I can tell, have one purpose.

You cast Transformation to turn them into non-unique moose, and then run around with Nature 4 moose-mages. Resummon, and repeat.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/cool.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Wow! I really after try this! I always wondered what they were for... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Tips hat to K's brilliance.


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