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Probably this.

http://www.army-technology.com/proje...d/roland1.html

There are some reports that the iraqis did ask for some crotale systems but the jury is still out whether they did get them or not.

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My vote on that pic also goes to the Roland.

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Unit 546 ASTROS, availability date 2005-2020.

No such thing currently in service. To be honest it is unclear what this unit is supposed to represent. ASTROS rockets were used by truck mounted MRLS like unit 554, no fixed or towed launcher were considered. It should be deleted.

Unit 554 ASTROS-30, availability date 2005-2020.

Wrong availability date. According to SIPRI trade registers the first units were delivered in 1984. Regardless of the exact year it was definitively an 80's affair, not a post 2003 development. Its availability date should be changed to something like 1/84-4/103.

Unit 563 ASTROS 30 Bty, availability date 2005-2020.

For the same reasons stated above this unit should be deleted. Unit 560 Sajil-30 is already available in the 80's and Sajil-30 was the iraqi designation for the 127mm ASTROS rockets.

Unit 560 Sajil-30, availability date 1975-2020.

Start date should be changed to 1/84, like it is already for Sajil-40 and Sajil-60 anyway.


EDIT
Some additional sources
http://www.uga.edu/cits/documents/pdf/BrazilXC.pdf
https://naveodtechdiv.jeodnet.mil/IraqOIG/iraqoig.asp

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Unit 55 M40 PH Team, availability date 2005-2020.
Unit 810 M40 Recoilless, availability date 2005-2020.

Incorrect availability dates. As far it is known there are no plans to issue the new iraqi army with these weapons. The old iraqi army did however use them, starting from the 50's. I suggest a date change to, let's say, 1/57-4/103

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,821169,00.html

Iraq Country Handbook

https://naveodtechdiv.jeodnet.mil/IraqOIG/iraqoig.asp

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Unit 351 Jeep/106 RCL, availability date 2005-2020.

Incorrect availability date. As described in the previous post it should be changed to something like 1/57-4/103.

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You do realize how all this totally buggers up the picklists don't you ?

Did you overlook or ignore units 53 and 54 yesterday?


Don

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Unfortunately yes, as I have had to deal with that issue myself.
What I am doing is compiling a list of issues with the iraqi OOB, with their possible solutions and the relative sources all in a single thread to be used for reference purposes. For the present time I am concentrating mostly on the units themselves.
I do understand they cannot be all implemented in the short term because a lot of work would be necessary to modify the formations and the picklists to accomodate the units changes.
The problem of course is that the iraqi army ceased to exist in 2003 and did so in a pretty throughout manner.
The personnel dispersed and the infrastructure and equipment were aggressively looted (tank engines ripped out to make village generators, artillery scrapped etc.).
The new armed forces have been rebuilt little by little and many capabilities have not been implemented yet.
In game terms this would mean that for example that the old iraqi army artillery formations would stop at 4/103 with new ones startng at 1/109 (or whatever) and the picklists would have to accomodate that. As I said I understand it is a lot of work and this thread is meant to be mainly as a reference for eventual future patches.


Unit 53 was one of those listed in the first page to have a start date which was a bit off, other than that is OK. As for unit 54 I am not sure as of yet. I have seen photos of insurgents using 82mm RR but I don't know about the 107mm ones.

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Some chinese weapons that should be added to the game as Iraq purchased and used them in some numbers during the Iran Iraq war. I suggest availability dates in the 1/84-4/103 range for the AA guns and 1/84-12/120 for the 107mm rockets, as they are still in use by the insurgents.

Type 65 AA gun
http://news.webshots.com/photo/13094...67710444IPjOZq
http://photobucket.com/mediadetail/?...;pageOffset=11
http://photobucket.com/mediadetail/?...;pageOffset=14

Type 55 AA gun
http://photobucket.com/mediadetail/?...p;pageOffset=1
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/l...NST9208063.jpg

Type-63 107mm MRL
https://naveodtechdiv.jeodnet.mil/IraqOIG/iraqoig.asp
SIPRI registers

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The new iraqi army has been using T-72 since the end of 2005. Judging from the pictures they appear to be T-72M/M1 variants (mostly T-72M).Hungary was the supplier.

http://www.defendamerica.mil/article...111405tj1.html

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...planned-01512/

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Could we assume they are both using the same "gun" then ?

Don