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 Re: Why do people hate on Ulm? "An SC chassis, but no items, does not an SC make." You sound just like Master Yoda :-) | 
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 Re: Why do people hate on Ulm? I've been away for a while, but at the end of my last round of playing Dominons I was loving LA Ulm. It has a workable blood economy with a pretender-dependent option to expand into earth/blood and the magic economy that implies, interesting immortal unique summmons which lead to some really nasty tactics (there was a really nice old article on it, but mainly Black Angel summoning within your own domain with immortal troops hurts a lot), excellent missile troops, and insane ability to generate unrest with its mage/spies. | 
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 Re: Why do people hate on Ulm? Black Angel? Lammashtas? | 
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 Re: Why do people hate on Ulm? Yep, them.  Told ya, it has been a while. But between that and skelespam, Ulm vampies do more than okay at defending friendly lands. | 
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 Re: Why do people hate on Ulm? The Black Priest now has chance for random Earth pick, so it's a little easier to get Earth-2 for the boots without taking it on your pretender. I like LA Ulm, but pretender design for them has driven me crazy. I want growth, a pretender that's at least sleeping with at least 3D3B, and probably some Prod (at least not Sloth). VQ is highly thematic, but as many have posted, way overpriced. | 
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 Re: Why do people hate on Ulm? Why do you need prod? LA Ulm is all rangers in basegame. | 
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 Re: Why do people hate on Ulm? As of last time I was playing Ulm, I ran a B6D3F2N2E2 Dom 7 sleeping fountain with Order 3 Misfortune 2 Growth 2 Magic 1.     This was several patches ago, so that may not be as useful now. An old thread I started about LA Ulm | 
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