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JimMorrison June 28th, 2008 03:00 PM

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I could have sworn you get 2 or 3 exp per turn for nothing. You can test this by starting a game, and never issuing any orders. Track how many turns it takes your starting commanders to gain a star. First star takes 40exp, right?

PvK June 28th, 2008 03:29 PM

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Ninave said:
... It is now Summer in the year 5. I can never seem to be able to see the turn number on resolution, it goes by so quickly. ...

The date can also be found from the main UI in the upper-right.

capnq June 30th, 2008 09:30 AM

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Ninave said: It is now Summer in the year 5. I can never seem to be able to see the turn number on resolution, it goes by so quickly.

One can figure out the turn number from the date.

Year 1 starts in Spring, so it's only 11 months, rather than 12.
Every year after that starts in Early Spring.

Summer in Year 5 = ((first 4 years x 12 months) - 1 month [missing from Year 1])+ month 5 of current year = turn 52

Gandalf Parker June 30th, 2008 11:13 AM

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If you have the game do a scores.html with each host then you can get it from that.

MaxWilson July 4th, 2008 02:42 AM

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Phoenix Pyre does NOT cause 50 points of AP damage in a 10-square area. It seems to be closer to 10 points of AP damage in a 50-square area, which for pretty obvious reasons is not nearly as good.

-Max

Lingchih July 4th, 2008 03:49 AM

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Yeah, I think we all knew that about Phoenix Pyre. Thanks for re-hashing it though.

lch July 4th, 2008 07:25 AM

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JimMorrison said:
I could have sworn you get 2 or 3 exp per turn for nothing. You can test this by starting a game, and never issuing any orders. Track how many turns it takes your starting commanders to gain a star. First star takes 40exp, right?

From the back of my head, I think it was 1 exp per turn, +2 if they were in a fight, +1 if they won, +X if they hit enemies. Or something like that. It's in the rulebook! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Maraxus July 5th, 2008 07:19 AM

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Critical hits hurt a heck of a lot more (and may be more frequent) than the formula given would indicate. p76

The formula for missiles landing against shielded units overstates the protection that shields provide. p77

Critical hits: Yes, it looks quite strange sometimes. I sometimes think, that the roll for critical hit might somehow be coralated with the attack or damage roll (so a roll that scores a high hit-roll is also more likely to be critical and deal over-average damage.
Pure speculation, however.

Missles: There is a myth, that deflection with a shield does not use the shield-hit rule. This is wrong, and I don't know, where it comes from. If you remember shield hits can deal damage and critical hits can likely do damage even on shield hits - Than most observations can be explained.



I can to add one:

Multiple attack penalty (to defence):
Page 75 states, that a unit takes a -2 penalty to defence for every previous attack against it this turn.
In contrast my tests indicate, that the penalty is only per weapon, not per attack. (And the indication is strongly, somewhere >99% )

Sombre July 5th, 2008 09:12 AM

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Maraxus said:
Missles: There is a myth, that deflection with a shield does not use the shield-hit rule. This is wrong, and I don't know, where it comes from. If you remember shield hits can deal damage and critical hits can likely do damage even on shield hits - Than most observations can be explained.


Here's a simple test for you:

Give shortbows damage 60 (or some other high value)
Give shield parry of 10 (by upping its #def value)
Give shield prot of 1

Test 100 units with shields against 100 shortbows. Result - shortbows don't do squat.

Now if you want you can test the shortbows with #armorpiercing or #armornegating.

WraithLord July 5th, 2008 09:59 AM

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PvK said:
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Ninave said:
... It is now Summer in the year 5. I can never seem to be able to see the turn number on resolution, it goes by so quickly. ...

The date can also be found from the main UI in the upper-right.

Maybe my eye sight is not what it used to be but for the heck of me I haven't been able to find the date in that corner nor in any other, corner nook or cranny of the UI, for that matter.


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