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Wdll July 16th, 2008 06:17 AM

Re: What\'s wrong with this?
 
They were support units.

Mobhack July 16th, 2008 06:49 AM

Re: What\'s wrong with this?
 
OK - As your opponent had these, and the same problem happened, I was able to locate the problem and fixed that bug.

It only seems to be happening on PBEM campaign deployment (works OK in a generated battle anyway), but the things are being marked as offmap units. So the N/P key does not select them, and they are not lined up with the rest of the onmap troops. To deploy on the map for now, select them from the force menu and then deploy on the map by clicking the spot desired.

Andy

Wdll July 16th, 2008 07:10 AM

Re: What\'s wrong with this?
 
It doesn't matter that they don't look like Patriots?
I will have in mind for our next game since we decided to end this campaign.

Oh, and thank you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Mobhack July 16th, 2008 07:55 AM

Re: What\'s wrong with this?
 
Quote:



It doesn't matter that they don't look like Patriots?


What do not look like patriots? - They are a generic SAM box launcher icon, if that was your complaint.

Quote:


I will have in mind for our next game since we decided to end this campaign


Best to restart, since choosing a location setting other than default will currently give you spurious batlocs in the PBEM campaign.


If you have badly damaged units, the deployment code puts these off map at the start, currently. however should you select "deploy all" then they are placed on the map, or if you select them from the list you can place them. Best not to use deploy all (leave that for the AI) and not to select from the list - to preserve your crews experience, there will be a better fix for that, which I am working on currently to disallow any user deployment of unrepaired units with damage > 1/2 points value on the map.

Andy

Wdll July 16th, 2008 09:10 AM

Re: What\'s wrong with this?
 
When I was trying and succeeding to deploy the patriots in the particular case, they would not appear as the launchers but as something like a truck. And because I tried later on a single battle to check them, they looked nothing like that.

When you say about damage, each unit can have max damage as its cost? (when trying to deploy them). So, for example, how do I know that unit A that has damage 40 is at 1/2 or less of max damage for that unit?

Mobhack July 16th, 2008 10:01 AM

Re: What\'s wrong with this?
 
look at unit 185 in the greek OOB in Mobhack - it looks lie a trailer, somewhat.

Cost (points value) is given in the info screen for the unit.

Andy

c_of_red July 16th, 2008 10:49 AM

Re: What\'s wrong with this?
 
Good morning gentlemen!
Yes, I changed the default to 'mountains'. That is because the border there between Turkey and Greece is mostly mountain with a few coastal valleys, and I thought that the 'Northern Europe' thingie was wacked.
I did buy the Patriots as core. I do use the reassign button a lot. Wdll is smarter then the average bear, so I intend on building 'tiger teams' to use against him. I also cut and paste on the formations. I buy 99% of my units in formations.
So when I buy a formation that has something I really don't want or need, I will cut it out and replace it with something I do want and/or need. In this cae I wanted an infantry Battalion with the weapons company farmed out. So I bought the 'Rifle company+' formation 3x Then I went back and deleted the SPAA, which are quad 50's and useful only as targets or bait, and replaced them with somthing else.
I do like to beef up my scout platoons by sticking an extra RR or AT-4 type weapon in there.
I also build a lot of scratch recon formations.
I just sent Wdll a new start-up. I once again set the map switch to mountains. Should we keep playing to see if we can duplicate the problem?

Wdll July 16th, 2008 10:50 AM

Re: What\'s wrong with this?
 
I think it looked more like 129, the 2 1/2 ton truck.
I guess I could not remember correctly, but I do remember that I found it very strange that it looked like that.
If it happens again I will let you know http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Wdll July 16th, 2008 10:53 AM

Re: What\'s wrong with this?
 
Since I have played a lot of Greece vs Turkey battles at default settins for maps, you shouldn't fear, there will be plenty of mountains/hills there. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

c_of_red July 16th, 2008 11:22 AM

Re: What\'s wrong with this?
 
"however should you select "deploy all" then they are placed on the map, or if you select them from the list you can place them. Best not to use deploy all"

That was it. I do the deploy all button, then adjust my units. It is faster and I don't forget to set the range as much.


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