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Dragar November 5th, 2008 02:14 AM
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Yah, survival for the win :)

Blesses really cost the world. If you can negate blessed units with anything close to gold equivalent you are worlds ahead

Humakty November 5th, 2008 05:57 AM
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True triple bless guys must have painfull moments once level 5-6 spells come out. Which can be really quick against someone with strong scales. Now I only use uber blesses on commanders worthy of it, so as to be sure not to get countered too easily. In SP, I've seen whole armies of sacreds (with no mages) get murdered by a strong pretender sitting behind his gates !
Think about it, who can afford a mage (several !) with each army with a double or triple bless (in MP) ?

sum1lost November 5th, 2008 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Humakty (Post 650469)
True triple bless guys must have painfull moments once level 5-6 spells come out. Which can be really quick against someone with strong scales. Now I only use uber blesses on commanders worthy of it, so as to be sure not to get countered too easily. In SP, I've seen whole armies of sacreds (with no mages) get murdered by a strong pretender sitting behind his gates !
Think about it, who can afford a mage (several !) with each army with a double or triple bless (in MP) ?
Mictlan often can, which is why they tend to be so dangerous.

Humakty November 5th, 2008 10:13 AM
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The shapechanging or flying sacreds of Mictlan are maybe an exception, mostly the shapechanging ones due to their limited invulnerability, if I remember well, they can't be killed in one hit.

chrispedersen November 5th, 2008 11:18 AM
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But you don't need to kill all of them, just enough to defeat them. Also, you can have your mage and decent scales, while he has destroyed his scales for his bless. Not to mention that its unlikely that your mage will only be able to kill one giant if he's spamming incinerate, more likely he will take down at least 2-3.

Plus the entire point being - giant dies, mage lives. That's the sort of equation that almost always bodes well for you. ;)
lets set it up and look at it. I think its far from clear.
say Niefle, 1500 gp, vs... who would we like as a standard fire commander. I don't think a fire nation is an apples to apples comparison to determine the general effectiveness of the tactic.

Humakty November 5th, 2008 11:29 AM
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I can only think of Ermor and Abysia having good enougth fire mages in EA. So it leaves some possibilities open for Niefel.

chrispedersen November 5th, 2008 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Humakty (Post 650506)
I can only think of Ermor and Abysia having good enougth fire mages in EA. So it leaves some possibilities open for Niefel.
Despite their other weakness.. Yomi has excellent mages EA. But we don't have to restrict to EA.


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