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MaxWilson January 9th, 2009 02:36 AM

Re: Lost in Time and Space?
 
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Originally Posted by JimMorrison (Post 665203)
I for one am stoked that Johan is troubled by this, and if it is fixed in a patch, I will send many Starspawn (blues, of course!) through the Void Gate, so I can see what happens. :D

And I will start using Claws of Cocytus. And enjoying it when someone uses it on me. I love watching arena fights, for instance.

-Max

lch January 9th, 2009 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JimMorrison (Post 665203)
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Originally Posted by Lingchih (Post 665178)
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Originally Posted by Johan K (Post 665090)

What?? Are you sure you don't get to see them? That is not intended.

I'm pretty sure you can see the fight if they pop back into an enemy prov. I used to play a lot of R'lyeh and seem to recall witnessing a few of those laughable fights.

Nono, you will always see the battle that happens when they pop back into "reality", however the issue is that you never see battles taking place INSIDE of The Void, Kokytos, or Inferno.

Exactly. The battles do take place during hosting, and can be inspected in the debug log, I think, but the battle reports don't appear in the player messages and can't be seen. I only saw fights in the three special provinces and their special battle conditions (the disco lights are nice) by finding out about the Debug Console.

lch January 9th, 2009 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Grottnikk (Post 665065)
Just alt-tabbed out to post a reply and when I go back in she's there safe and not-very sound. She's back in this dimension, but she is now officially crazier than a ****-house rat, with an insanity level of 20. Yes, you read that right. TWENTY! Anyone know any good therapist units in EA Dominions?
Seriously though, any way to cure insanity?

There is no way at all in the game to cure insanity, no.

MaxWilson January 9th, 2009 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by lch (Post 665357)
Exactly. The battles do take place during hosting, and can be inspected in the debug log, I think, but the battle reports don't appear in the player messages and can't be seen. I only saw fights in the three special provinces and their special battle conditions (the disco lights are nice) by finding out about the Debug Console.

??? Is that a mod? Or some secret beta-tester thing? I would LOVE to be able to watch battles without having spies present, in my SP games.

-Max

Sombre January 9th, 2009 09:03 AM

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He means the log file you get when you turn the -d -dd or -ddd switch on the command line.

thejeff January 9th, 2009 09:07 AM

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The Debug Console sounds like something else. At least I can't see disco lights in my log file. :)

lch January 9th, 2009 09:09 AM

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Yes, the host is able to generate log files for all the battles that happen in a turn, and the players can see the same debug info if they look at the battle report with debugging turned on. But you can't watch battles as a player that you don't have battle reports for.

In SP gaming, since you're the host, you can see the battles happening in the log files, but that's not really very useful to understand what happened. The proposed Watcher nation mod which nobody so far bothered to complete would allow to see them. Or if you can, just cast the "Eyes of God" global.

The Debug Console thing that I wrote about is a developer tool built into Dom3. It features a basic battle simulator, which isn't terribly useful, just for testing out abilities and weapons on multiple units.

lch January 9th, 2009 09:18 AM

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Attached is a screenshot what a battle in the Void would look like. There are colored glowing spheres, or blobs, which keep growing until they burst and vanish into dust. The units are fighting under the special battle condition "Dimension Overload" which halves their Att, Def, Prec and MR. There's a special icon for it.

Gregstrom January 9th, 2009 09:22 AM

Re: Lost in Time and Space?
 
Do the various devil types get a bonus to return from the appropriate hells? It seems to me that, for example, an Ice Devil sent to Cocytos shouldn't have too hard a time of it.

lch January 9th, 2009 09:29 AM

Re: Lost in Time and Space?
 
Devils don't have a bonus, but Arch Devils have a 100% chance to return from Inferno and Ice Devils have the same for Cocytos. The wielder of the Tome of the Lower Planes has a 50% chance to escape from them each turn.


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