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WraithLord April 19th, 2009 12:00 PM

Re: Brainstorming Nation Strategies
 
MA Caelum:

-> Flying. Its such a huge strategical advantage. Where to start, scouting the globe, getting there or out of there in time, surprise attacks, traps. You don't have to take to battle unless its in your favor.
Tactically, siege battles, get to mages in the back-line, kill SCs before they buff with:
-> Flying thugsable commanders (couple with forge bonus). Equip them as SC killers or chaff dispersers as needed.
-> S4 and above on pretender for Spentas
-> Strong bless is subpar. At most take a few minor blesses but even these are not required.
-> Build lot's of cheap castles. Caelum is mage centric.
-> Mammoths rush. Don't use them after initial phase.
-> Go for sloth. The high resource units aren't worth it. If anything make them in small numbers.
-> Lean heavily on Evoc. and Alter. for all the A/W goodies
-> Air Queens

Redeyes April 19th, 2009 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WraithLord (Post 686709)
-> Flying thugsable commanders (couple with forge bonus). Equip them as SC killers or chaff dispersers as needed.

The Storm General really is one of the best, by having lightning and cold resistance at 75%, protection scaling with cold (8-20), and Storm Iimmunity coupled with his flying.

mathusalem April 21st, 2009 04:49 AM

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yes, but only 11 HP : He can be one shot : how do you equip them for increase there survibiability ?

Il Magno April 21st, 2009 07:44 AM

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EA Pangea

rainbow pretender to find sites that permits you to differentiate your combat mages

Sleepers thugs

in cmb1.4 kita lions thugs (I am testing one empowered to water two to quick and breath of winter itself), very gem expensive but its a solo game....

Ivy king casting songs (honly use for the songs is imho with mage-thugs) + fear whip

ivy king with poison stick and flying boots to poison rear postioned enemy mages

chrispedersen April 21st, 2009 10:49 AM

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Pangaea: Ahhh such lovelineess....

Carrion Dragon + prophet casting undead buffs = fast expansion
Forts with pans= impossible to take.
Carrion woods or is that ME...
Beeline for mother Oak. Then overwrite GoH if anyone is foolish enough to try to touch your nature income.
Start a blood economy - blood stones
Late: Swarm + Haunted forest = Machine gun undead.
Pan assassins...........

Dragar April 21st, 2009 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by WraithLord (Post 686696)
Jotunheim:

-> Skratti rule. With good bless give them the shroud and watch out for low MR - their Achilles heel.

For this reason with Utgard, and presumably for Jot, research Evoc 2 first to get astral searching going. Site searching remotes should be your top priorities, then a bit of Alt and finally construction to 4 to start the skrattis rocking :)

Redeyes April 21st, 2009 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mathusalem (Post 687052)
yes, but only 11 HP : He can be one shot : how do you equip them for increase there survibiability ?

Technically, you can one-shot anything if you have enough damage ;)

Depending on what tools you have, you can use anything from troops with guard commander (most straightforward way) to battlefield enchantment spells such as fog warriors.

Same as with all human thugs, don't sink too many gems into them.
A frost brand or two is good enough.

Il Magno April 21st, 2009 11:20 AM

Re: Brainstorming Nation Strategies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chrispedersen (Post 687101)
Pangaea: Ahhh such lovelineess....

Carrion Dragon + prophet casting undead buffs = fast expansion
Forts with pans= impossible to take.
Carrion woods or is that ME...
Beeline for mother Oak. Then overwrite GoH if anyone is foolish enough to try to touch your nature income.
Start a blood economy - blood stones
Late: Swarm + Haunted forest = Machine gun undead.
Pan assassins...........


Pan assassins, I have seen them named many times, I have also tested them according to Mr Gandalf Parker suggestions........till could anybody suggest a magic item good set up for such beast?

thx in advance
:)

Torin April 21st, 2009 11:26 AM

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chris, that`s great pangaea stuff, specially the swarm trick.
You got more dragonflies or ants with the other one... dont remember the spell name. And what about the life after death or the ankh. will it work too?

Redeyes April 21st, 2009 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Il Magno (Post 687110)
suggestions........till could anybody suggest a magic item good set up for such beast?

Depends on what your target is but I can only suggest that you go for what is cheapest, that is:
Summon Earth Elemental
or
Swarm

Either is a perfect assassination spell, though either can be countered


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