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iCaMpWiThAWP January 4th, 2010 08:09 PM

Re: Current game effects of thermobaric ammo
 
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Originally Posted by Suhiir (Post 724730)
WC=8 (Inf Flame)
RMG RG Acc=20 Whd=3 HEP=15 HEK=50 AP Pen=222 HEAT Pen=35
TBG-7V Acc=20 Whd=2 HEP=11 HEK=55 AP Pen=222 HEAT Pen=33
40mm TB Acc=20 Whd=2 HEP=4 HEK=10 AP Pen=222 HEAT Pen=12

I'm wondering if the HEP rating on the 40mm TB might be a tad low.

40mm tb is flame, will have 999 pen(game code thing) if hits, so i don't think HEP is really important. :) Don, Andy, is that true?

Mobhack January 4th, 2010 09:37 PM

Re: Current game effects of thermobaric ammo
 
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Originally Posted by iCaMpWiThAWP (Post 724769)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Suhiir (Post 724730)
WC=8 (Inf Flame)
RMG RG Acc=20 Whd=3 HEP=15 HEK=50 AP Pen=222 HEAT Pen=35
TBG-7V Acc=20 Whd=2 HEP=11 HEK=55 AP Pen=222 HEAT Pen=33
40mm TB Acc=20 Whd=2 HEP=4 HEK=10 AP Pen=222 HEAT Pen=12

I'm wondering if the HEP rating on the 40mm TB might be a tad low.

40mm tb is flame, will have 999 pen(game code thing) if hits, so i don't think HEP is really important. :) Don, Andy, is that true?

No, the HE figures for the weapon are used for most of the HE pen stuff.

IF it is a flame weapon and certain internal things happen in the penetration code
THEN it will have 999 pen figure assigned to it for that shot as a 'sure thing'.

Which does not necessarily mean it will kill, just that the flame weapon is odds-on for a penetration.
Kill calculations come after penetration calculations.



Andy

Suhiir January 4th, 2010 11:40 PM

Re: Current game effects of thermobaric ammo
 
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Originally Posted by DRG (Post 724750)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Suhiir (Post 724730)



Napalm 250 Acc=5 Whd=3 HEP=5 HEK=50 AP Pen=0 HEAT Pen=0
Napalm 500 Acc=5 Whd=5 HEP=10 HEK=100 AP Pen=0 HEAT Pen=0
CBU Incen Acc=101 Whd=3 HEP=19 HEK=190 AP Pen=0 HEAT Pen=0

Look at HEK, Napalm=50 & 100, FAE=100 & 200, CBU=190.
Might 190 be a bit low for the CBU?



IDK, the Acc=101 makes it the most accurate "napalm" weapon in the game and there are only three weapons with a higher HEP.

There is no other "CBU" more accurate and no other "cluster" weapon that's even close for HEKill.

Don

For the HEK I was looking at in in relation to :

ZAB-500 Acc=20 Whd=5 HEP=15 HEK=200 AP Pen=0 HEAT Pen=0
ZAB-250 Acc=20 Whd=3 HEP=8 HEK=100 AP Pen=0 HEAT Pen=0
FAE Acc=20 Whd=3 HEP=15 HEK=200 AP Pen=0 HEAT Pen=0

rather then "plain" napalm.

If the Acc=101 isn't a typo then the 10 less HEK compared to a 500# FAE is well and truly irrelevant. I sorta assumed the Acc=101 might be a typo (gee, and we know what assuming gets you) :doh:


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