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Calahan April 3rd, 2010 06:08 AM

Re: Patch v3.25 released!
 
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Originally Posted by Amonchakad (Post 738697)
Pray that Markata Swarm never *ever* gets implemented. No army of fully kitted tartarians could ever hope to defeat a throng of mighty Markatas.

Markata's own Tarts in vanilla. They don't need a swarm. No point wasting gems on a spell to summon 1,000 Markata's when 1 Markata can do the job just as well.

Maybe if the spell was made available to non monkey nations, then it could be useful as a way of balancing the game. All that would be needed then is a spell that converts any nations PD into Monkey PD. But guess that's too damaging to the game balance since it would make magic raiding almost impossible (unless you empowered a lot of Markata's in Air or Astral)

Sombre April 3rd, 2010 07:16 AM

Re: Patch v3.25 released!
 
What do you mean unless you empower them in astral? How else are you going to get a markata wish empowered to wish for more markata?

Calahan April 3rd, 2010 07:31 AM

Re: Patch v3.25 released!
 
Well I think it'd be pretty stupid to risk your S5/S6 Markata's for raiding, since if you lose those you'll fall terminally behind in the wishing for Markata race. So for raiding, it's far better to take a newly wished for Markata, empower him to S1, then throw on Star Cap and Coin/Ring for an almost unbeatable magic phase raider.

Can't see any logic in raiding with your Wish casting Markata's, since the only possible niche use that would have is to cast Maser Enslave. But Markata's are immune to puny mind tricks, so you'd certainly lose him if the enemy has just one Markata in the province. (and only newbs don't have Markata's defending all their provinces)

Sombre April 3rd, 2010 07:43 AM

Re: Patch v3.25 released!
 
Ah but the opponent will send out his S7 empowered markata to drop some magic duel on your ***.

It's a classic rock paper markata situation.

Calahan April 3rd, 2010 08:05 AM

Re: Patch v3.25 released!
 
Well, if my opponent wants to lose his Wish casting Markata's then that's all good by me :) Since Markata's are immune to magic duel, and if two Markata's magic duel the result is a draw.

But if you don't want to lose your newly empowered S1 Markata's to drawn Magic Duel's, then empower them in Air instead.

Rookierookie April 3rd, 2010 08:15 PM

Re: Patch v3.25 released!
 
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Originally Posted by Sombre (Post 738403)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Belac (Post 738393)
That's another good idea.

To hijack this thread further, what about making the B9 bless more useful? It could grant bonus fatigue damage on each hit, like F9 and D9.

It could do literally anything and it would be more useful than it is now.

Not necessarily. Say, Berserk...

Trumanator April 3rd, 2010 08:40 PM

Re: Patch v3.25 released!
 
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Originally Posted by Rookierookie (Post 738787)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sombre (Post 738403)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Belac (Post 738393)
That's another good idea.

To hijack this thread further, what about making the B9 bless more useful? It could grant bonus fatigue damage on each hit, like F9 and D9.

It could do literally anything and it would be more useful than it is now.

Not necessarily. Say, Berserk...

Berserk is useless?

rdonj April 4th, 2010 12:01 AM

Re: Patch v3.25 released!
 
Berserk certainly can be useful. It's not my favorite bless generally, but it has its uses. And is already taken with nature. Blood, on the other hand, is pretty much completely pointless. It could give 1 extra hp to the blessed unit and be better :)

Sombre April 4th, 2010 09:55 AM

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I would take 1 extra hp over the current B9 effect for sure.


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