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Soyweiser December 13th, 2010 11:36 AM

Re: Should banned user mods/maps/etc be deleted from these boards?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Muse (Post 765926)
Authors do not have the right to 'delete' their work from the public domain, whether or not a library they dislike profits from it.

Public domain? I don't think those words mean what you think they mean.

thejeff December 13th, 2010 02:34 PM

Re: Should banned user mods/maps/etc be deleted from these boards?
 
I agree that those words were misused, since "public domain" has a specific meaning in copyright context.
Do you disagree with the actual point though? Do you think authors have (or should have) the right to delete published copies of their work?

Soyweiser December 13th, 2010 02:45 PM

Re: Should banned user mods/maps/etc be deleted from these boards?
 
I don't really have a clear opinion on it. Something can be said for both sides.

NTJedi December 13th, 2010 05:39 PM

Re: Should banned user mods/maps/etc be deleted from these boards?
 
This topic is quite pointless since no matter what the voting results nothing would change. It's like having a topic called, "Should development work for Dominions_4 be started?". Even if 99.9% of the community voted "yes" with 80,000 verified real votes it would not change anything.
I'm thinking some disgruntled banned members orchestrated this discussion as a way for tossing pebbles into the ocean in an attempt to make some waves. It's kinda cute.

PriestyMan December 13th, 2010 05:42 PM

Re: Should banned user mods/maps/etc be deleted from these boards?
 
Cleveland is definitely Sombre's alt

thejeff December 13th, 2010 05:43 PM

Re: Should banned user mods/maps/etc be deleted from these boards?
 
More likely Cleveland just felt like poking the nest with a stick. You'll notice he hasn't commented after the first post.

Very successful hit and run troll.

edit: May or may not be someone's alt. Doesn't really matter. The outcome and likely intent is the same.

archaeolept December 13th, 2010 05:44 PM

Re: Should banned user mods/maps/etc be deleted from these boards?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NTJedi (Post 765978)
I'm thinking some disgruntled banned members orchestrated this discussion as a way for tossing pebbles into the ocean in an attempt to make some waves. It's kinda cute.

christ that's dumb. It's purely cleveland's creation. He's an old and well-liked member of the community, but he only shows up now and then. He came by shrapnel, read up on the old news, became incensed, and posted this poll. Hopefully it doesn't mean that he's given up on Dominions entirely, but it may well.

NTJedi December 13th, 2010 06:03 PM

Re: Should banned user mods/maps/etc be deleted from these boards?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by archaeolept (Post 765981)
christ that's dumb. It's purely cleveland's creation. He's an old and well-liked member of the community, but he only shows up now and then. He came by shrapnel, read up on the old news, became incensed, and posted this poll. Hopefully it doesn't mean that he's given up on Dominions entirely, but it may well.

Are you blind? Look at the abstain voting option and you'll clearly see it's not an independent view. Abstain is clearly an obvious attack instead of being "Abstain - No comment" and thus allowing members to post their own reasons for abstaining. As I wrote earlier this is just a pebble into the ocean... cute to watch. LOL

PriestyMan December 13th, 2010 06:06 PM

Re: Should banned user mods/maps/etc be deleted from these boards?
 
its not an independant view. its umm.... clevelands. just like archae said.

Muse December 13th, 2010 06:06 PM

Re: Should banned user mods/maps/etc be deleted from these boards?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Soyweiser (Post 765939)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Muse (Post 765926)
Authors do not have the right to 'delete' their work from the public domain, whether or not a library they dislike profits from it.

Public domain? I don't think those words mean what you think they mean.

They do, and you're obfuscating the point.
"Works are in the public domain if they are not covered by intellectual property rights at all."
It would take long years in a sympathetic court to yield even a slight acknowledgment of IP rights on a mod. Especially a mod of one copyrighted game to add the units of another copyrighted game to it.

As I've said, this does not reflect my opinion on the modders themselves, but it is nonetheless accurate.
The purpose of modding is likely to improve something you enjoy. You clearly acknowledge that you will be aiding the game and all who profit from its improvement. Including you.

I'll give a useful example:
If Jim Butcher urinated on the floor of a Barnes and Noble, he may be banned from the premises.
Will the store still sell The Dresden Files? Yes.
And he actually does have the IP rights to that series.


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