Re: 25% autoroute question
 

What nations have you played? Some don't have any or very many heroes. Also, if you're not playing with mods, that can limit the number of heroes.

Re: 25% autoroute question
 

Umm, a bit of each, I think.

Earlier, Corinthian said:
So I thought that meant you'd get a smattering throughout the game, whoever you were, given not too much misfortune.

But are you saying, each nation can only have so-many heroes, so once you've had them (earlier in game), you don't get any more later??

[Edit: I only play vanilla, SP]

Re: 25% autoroute question
 

Vanilla or CBM?

Many nations have less heroes in vanilla. Few have multi-heroes.

Except for the multi-heroes, you will only get each hero once, so it's quite possible to use your heroes up early in the game.


Edit: If you want to play around with heroes without going over to CBM, the Worthy Heroes part of CBM started out as a separate mod and may still work by itself.

Re: 25% autoroute question
 

Sort of on topic...

I've always wondered if a routing squad immediately counts as a drop to zero HP (all units) against the rest of the army. Also... if they do count as zero does it happen the second they rout or when they leave the field.

-ssj

Re: 25% autoroute question
 

I'm pretty sure they don't count as gone against the total army HP until they're off the field. I recently had an SP battle with four tricked out indy shambler chiefs leading a passle of Atlantean militia and a handful of shamblers. All of the troops routed during the combat, along with most of the chiefs, but two chiefs remained to win the battle for me despite having essentially normal morale. They just never failed the check and weren't forced to auto-rout, and their equipment was enough to keep them up and fighting long enough to rout the enemy (indy tritons and triton troopers - may have killed the enemy commanders).

Re: 25% autoroute question
 

Back to the autorout question.

Can Master enslave cause autorout? Do the units enslaved count as HP loss by the enemy?

Re: 25% autoroute question
 

Interesting question, I don't know.

Re: 25% autoroute question
 

The answer is yes. Its a hilarious tactic against people that relies on vine men or mankins. Both have bad/terrible MR and are magic beings and are thus vulnerable to arcane domination. In one battle I managed to steal 90% of the enemy troops causing an auto rout on turn 1 for the enemy. Most of the enemy mages were killed by their own bodyguards before they managed to get away.:D