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Kobal2 March 4th, 2012 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by triqui (Post 797558)
Another possible option is to take a Forger god, with a discount to forge. A f2b4 can cheapely get a few blood boosters and become a Soul Contract factory, building one per turn (even cheaper with a forging hammer), so you can create a huge amount of devils in the long run.
Soul Contracts are one of the few items that don't get discounted by forging bonuses or dwarven hammers. Which makes sense, since you're not actually using the slaves to build them, but as payment for a deal with some demon lord of some description.

Lifelong Protection works the same way.

triqui March 4th, 2012 07:54 PM
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Oh. Kinda silly that you can use the hammer in other blood items but not in this one

Shardphoenix March 4th, 2012 08:09 PM
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Well, Armor of souls is still forged, but soul contract is written.

Legendary League March 4th, 2012 08:35 PM
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Quick question: what exactly is heroic damage?

Soyweiser March 4th, 2012 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Legendary League (Post 797585)
Quick question: what exactly is heroic damage?
Where did you see that?

Legendary League March 4th, 2012 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Legendary League (Post 797585)
Quick question: what exactly is heroic damage?
Where did you see that?
Figured I might as well look for all of LA Mari's heroes. Angelique has it on her light lance. Don't think it's an anti-undead effect, since that's written on it already under damage. Also haven't been able to google anything relating to it.

Shangrila00 March 5th, 2012 12:15 AM
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Figured I might as well look for all of LA Mari's heroes. Angelique has it on her light lance. Don't think it's an anti-undead effect, since that's written on it already under damage. Also haven't been able to google anything relating to it.
Check the dm file for CBM. It does an extra 15 strength not counted ap damage that doubles against larger foes. Which means Angelique is a pretty serious anti-thug with her default weapon. Too bad she's size 3 though. At least I assume she's counted as size 3, I'm not sure about how cavalry gets counted.

If she hits a size 4 undead, she'll do 48 regular damage followed by 30 ap.

triqui March 5th, 2012 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Shardphoenix (Post 797580)
Well, Armor of souls is still forged, but soul contract is written.
I get the hammer bonus to forge a carpet, a bag of wine, a pill or an elixir. So I still think it's stupid to make an exception only with contracts.

Amhazair March 5th, 2012 01:32 PM
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None of those constitute a deal with the lords of hell. I'm okay with forging discounts working for any kind of item where the item itself is where the power comes from, but not for one where the power is not in the item itself, but in the deal it represents.

Or alternatively: Thou shalt not haggle with the devil.

Legendary League March 5th, 2012 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Shangrila00 (Post 797607)

Check the dm file for CBM. It does an extra 15 strength not counted ap damage that doubles against larger foes. Which means Angelique is a pretty serious anti-thug with her default weapon. Too bad she's size 3 though. At least I assume she's counted as size 3, I'm not sure about how cavalry gets counted.

If she hits a size 4 undead, she'll do 48 regular damage followed by 30 ap.
Man, now I wish we had giants this game! (neither a Gath or a Utgard, hrmph)


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