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152H55 February 7th, 2015 06:45 AM

Re: Current Finnish OOB - some notes for discussion
 
Thumbs up for the modifications. Have you considired switchign TOW-2 and Spike ER to a Heavy ATGM class like in many other nations (Canada, Spain, Turkey etc.)? Now all the Finnish ATGM's from NLAW to TOW are lumped together. To switch could benefit the AI too.

And if you need any pics from Finnish equipment, I have gathered quite a collection over the years. A small sample:

http://i.imgur.com/GyXLIFk.png

dmnt February 8th, 2015 06:24 AM

Re: Current Finnish OOB - some notes for discussion
 
I'm actually extending the use of classes in Finnish OOB. One reason is that the game doesn't quite support the Finnish use of ATGMs: For example, BMP-1 PzJaegers kept that AT-3/AT-4 missile on top of the BMP-1 while moving and detached it for fighting. Now in the game if ATGM is in the vehicle it can't shoot and when troops exit the vehicle they can't get the vehicle ATGM out.

In my opinion Finnish troops benefit more when the vehicle ATGM is part of the unit being transported. I'm adding a PzJaeger Co/B where platoons have non-ATGM BMP-1 as a transport and two units for each BMP-1, an ATGM team and PzJaeger Squad with reduced number of men.

dmnt March 1st, 2015 03:23 PM

Re: Current Finnish OOB - some notes for discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PvtJoker (Post 826126)
And now for the AFV notes:
125mm D-81 penetrations assume Soviet domestic standard rounds. The HEAT numbers are too high (BK-14M HEAT was the best exported from the USSR). Finland also never purchased new HEAT rounds for the gun in the 1990s but continued to use the BK-14M.

A friend of mine who was a T-72 gunner confirmed, the older round (1986) was the one that matches the HEAT penetration. So 125mm D81T 88 (weapon #215) should be replaced with D81T 86 (#102).

Although they were mentioned that if the things go international then there will be better ammunition available but possibilities didn't get more specific than that.


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