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RetLT July 4th, 2018 06:25 PM

Re: Missing Lost Scenarios?
 
Here is another idea:

Increase the value of the ammo trucks to 150 each. This adds 984 points to the overload calculation.

Remove the 4 strike aircraft, which are more of a menace to the Americans than the Iraqis, and this removes 958 of those points leaving a total increase of only 26 additional points for the overload calculation.

I would also add a special rule that at least 3 of the 8 trucks must reach a v-hex or the American player automatically loses. This forces the human player to move them from their start position and to safeguard them along the way making the scenario much more challenging.

scorpio_rocks July 4th, 2018 07:01 PM

Re: Missing Lost Scenarios?
 
I'm not sure that the aircraft count in the artillery overload?

EDIT= found it in the GG:
"Air units or ADA do not count as artillery points, only mortars, howitzers etc. that can fire indirectly. Ammo resupply units do count as artillery points, as they are a human use only unit against the AI."

RetLT July 4th, 2018 10:57 PM

Re: Missing Lost Scenarios?
 
I guess it is back to pricey trucks carrying ammo canisters.

RetLT July 5th, 2018 12:35 AM

Re: Missing Lost Scenarios?
 
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Scn 434 Rear Guard.

Fun scenario. The Reds got so close I could smell them.

Two minor issues though.

#1 The Turkish (actually American) M4 Unit F0 has 255 rounds of HE ammo.


#2 The Chinese AT Rifle teams I5, K3, N4 and N5 do not carry AT rifles but rather bazookas. They should be labeled as "AT Team" like unit I4 is. Additionally all of these units (including I4) have 50 rounds of bazooka ammo. Also, this ammo is listed as AP instead of HEAT

RetLT July 5th, 2018 07:36 PM

Re: Missing Lost Scenarios?
 
Scn 435 Into the Beehive:

Vietminh artillery batteries AH0 and AH1 are listed as immobilized and do not fire.

RetLT July 6th, 2018 07:29 AM

Re: Missing Lost Scenarios?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scorpio_rocks (Post 842504)
I'm not sure that the aircraft count in the artillery overload?

EDIT= found it in the GG:
"Air units or ADA do not count as artillery points, only mortars, howitzers etc. that can fire indirectly. Ammo resupply units do count as artillery points, as they are a human use only unit against the AI."

I am not 100% sure about this.

I just set up a test scenario to see if I could kill a level bomber with an ammo dump explosion so I bought nothing but B-52s and an HQ. When the scenario started I was charged overload points. Maybe level bombers are different?

DRG July 6th, 2018 08:33 AM

Re: Missing Lost Scenarios?
 
On the list to check......

Edit

Just checked WW2 with the same test....HQ and level bombers.... game showed arty overload so ( to my surprise ) it does look like Level bombers count to arty overload so between now and the next patch we'll decide if we change the write up in the game guide to include level bombers or change the code to make sure they are excluded from adding to overload

DRG July 6th, 2018 09:38 AM

Re: Missing Lost Scenarios?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RetLT (Post 842519)

I am not 100% sure about this.

I just set up a test scenario to see if I could kill a level bomber with an ammo dump explosion so I bought nothing but B-52s and an HQ. When the scenario started I was charged overload points. Maybe level bombers are different?


GOOD CATCH......it actually exposed two problems....the arty overload and another more interesting one.......when level bombers make their run they dump their bombs and you don't get to use them again but it looks like the code used 1 point of damage as the way to remove them from the roster...... that one point damage was being awarded to the other player as one victory point :doh:

I have no real way to check but that may go WAY back

Mobhack July 6th, 2018 11:19 AM

Re: Missing Lost Scenarios?
 
The 1 damage point to flag aircraft as "used up" goes back to the original game, so 1995 or whatever.

The level bomber class shouldn't be getting added to arty overload - will be fixed.

cheers
Andy

zovs66 July 6th, 2018 11:35 AM

Re: Missing Lost Scenarios?
 
Lost scenarios bring up some interesting results lol. Been fun watching this thread.


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