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Karagin April 26th, 2021 03:03 PM
Re: M4 Carbine Range question
 
The Rangers having the shorter ranged weapons makes sense, so perhaps rename one of them to CAR-15?

Having units use slot 9 weapon would fit better in MHO, with exception of the Ranger units.

Karagin April 26th, 2021 03:05 PM
Re: M4 Carbine Range question
 
One thing, the listed M4 and the M4A1, the A1 is the full auto version, for some reason this was thought to be a good idea, so shouldn't the accuracy of that be lowered since a weapon like a rifle or a carbine firing on full auto is not going to hit things very well.

DRG April 26th, 2021 03:08 PM
Re: M4 Carbine Range question
 
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Originally Posted by Karagin (Post 850190)
The Rangers having the shorter ranged weapons makes sense, so perhaps rename one of them to CAR-15?

Having units use slot 9 weapon would fit better in MHO, with exception of the Ranger units.

Something like that. It is simpler to rename things or rename and alter data in some cases than change unit weapon assignments sometimes it's simpler to change weapons assignments. In this case, I went with the rename and/or alter data option though perhaps for those three Ranger units and their time period M4 Commando might be better ?

Suhiir April 26th, 2021 07:17 PM
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[quote=DRG;850180]
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Originally Posted by DRG (Post 850127)
UPDATE...but now it and all the others in the various OOB's are 6 and the M4A1 is 7 and for purposes of the game the "M4" is assumed to use Iron sights but the "A1" is assumed to use optics. The M4 should have been upgraded to 6 range when the M4A1 Carbine was upgraded to 7 range but to put this in perspective the weapon used in the game by most US units for the current time period is the M16A4/M4 ACOG RIFLE which has a range of 9 hexes. The M4 "Carbine" is what's used by Mortar crews, TOW teams, and forward observers and in some few cases, scout teams in the game but I think there is a semantics issue here.
I'll work on separating the M16A4 ACOG and M4A1 ACOG in the USMC weapons tab and updating the units effected. Expect an updated USMC OOB sometime in the future.
M16A4 = 9
M4A1 = 7
M4 = 6

DRG April 26th, 2021 07:27 PM
Re: M4 Carbine Range question
 
Don't be too hasty. I made the M4 range 8 and what was the M4A1 for a whole three units is now an M4 Commando range 6

The M4 in the US OOB weapon 10 is the non optic version and US army weapon 9 is now the M16A2/M4 ACOG

FASTBOAT TOUGH April 26th, 2021 10:06 PM
Re: M4 Carbine Range question
 
In response to Post #21, boy did things get busy here!?!

I've had MBT's with just over a 100 kills.

And to be clear, I've lost some of those tanks as well. I'm not saving them for some kind of "Hall of Fame", everyone fights the same "under my command". ;)

I now chose to retreat from here!?!

Regards,
Pat
:capt:

Compromise is a wonderful thing, maybe our Congress should read this thread!?! Well done, everyone!!!! Yes, I really mean it.


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