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Ukraine started with 100 Bradley's in March. It lost 50-60 in 6 months. At this rate it will have 0 Bradley's in February unless restocked. Is there any accounting for a country that had equipment and then lost it? I haven't seen any legislation to replace the losses, they are getting a mix of other vehicles but they seem to be heading to 0 Bradley soon. They are of course capturing abandoned Russian equipment which is the source of their growth. |
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You have your opinion and we have ours.
As mentioned earlier - if you really think you are the expert here, you can edit your own OOB with Mobhack for your own use. You can even post that in the Mods forum to see if anyone else agrees with you. Meanwhile, we will stick to what is being reported via reliable sources. The UKR OOB may well change by next Spring, from further info supplied by these sources. Maybe those will match your opinions as expressed here, but most likely not. |
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https://twitter.com/AlexRaptor94/sta...27249921741202 that's a lot of Leopard 2's in AFU service. Quote:
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1.) In 2005-2006 Ukraine had 3,784 MBTs, 3,043 AIFVs, 8,492 APCs, 1,143 Towed Guns, 1,298 SP Guns, and 200+ Mi-24 HINDs, along with 40 x Mi-6 HOOK and 300+ Mi-8 HIP transport helicopters, as well as 400~ mobile tactical SAM systems and 400+ combat aircraft of all types, plus 800+ strategic heavy SAM systems. 2.) In the original SP2 and SP3 days in the late 1990s; a good number of scenarios made involved Ukraine; as it was a potential fUSSR flashpoint. Ergo, it made sense for Ukraine to be included in SP:MBT when it was being developed into WinSPMBT. Quote:
It makes no difference if AFU loses 50, 100 or all 186 M2s pledged, as the US will simply pull more M2s and refurbish them as needed to keep AFU "topped up". This isn't possible with the European NATO stockpiles; as due to the CFE treaty, everything in Europe over a certain limit had to be destroyed, so there's no huge stockpile of Leopard 1s or 2s left over from 1992 the way there is with US Abrams and Bradleys. Only the US and Russia were able to "cheat" by moving their stockpiles out of the "European" zone. |
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The 2a6 and other tanks are not available in number. Quote:
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Isn't this image from around April/May?
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April in a training accident and it's old news now |
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An example of equipment Ukraine had in the past and now lost.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...lI_KklfZe08Db6 The article implies Ukraine has no real TB2 force anymore. Therefore, if we had them in the game, we would adjust the OOB accordingly. Countries can have weapons in the past and lose them, and if we get a similar report for other equipment we can consider it. |
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