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This is just my very humble personal opinion, but I find this critic about the authenticity of races inappropriate. If you don't like the race, nobody forces you to use it. And I believe the creators of the races should have the freedom to make it like they want it to be and not be slaves to the original TV pictures.

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If even Pax does not mind, I'll keep them as it is for a time being. once anybody creates more "authentic" ship set, I have no objections to rename them as a some sort of Tholian bashers, as Baron and Pax suggested. Seltorian Tribunal sounds nice http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Oleg, too hell with what others think. IF they are so high and mighty on Star Trek, then let them make their own ship sets. I honestly didn't see any one else step up to bat to make the Tholians except you. Therefor my friend, your Tholians are THE Tholians for me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: tholians
 

I made another attempt to improve carriers/fighter:

1027947910.zip

Also, I'm working on "canon" tholian ship set.
Here is a sample:

1027948133.zip

I do not like coloring scheme at all, but it follows (more or less closely) SFB blueprints.
Should I change it ?

I also have no idea how carriers, bases, fighters, etc. should look like.

Re: tholians
 

The new carriers in the "non-canon" set look better than your originals.

I agree that the color scheme from the "canon" set is a little odd, but the ships do appear faithful to the SFB view. I have no idea what color scheme would be better, of course. Maybe give it more of a red tint than a yellow tint?

Re: tholians
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hmm. I think it's the lack of detail / visual interest that's a problem with the canon shipset; not sure how to fix that, sorry.

Tholian carriers tended to mount their fighters *externally*, on small docking clamps. In SFB this gives teh advantage of simultaneous launch fo ALL fighters, and also possible simultaneous -recovery- of all fighters.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">&lt;Start Whining...&gt; WAAAAA &lt;/End Whining&gt;

Ok look, nothen personal, but if you're going to be outputting something that fosters a creative touch or is in any way a biproduct of YOUR talents and YOUR time/effort... Have the god damn strength to stand up for yourself and say "**** you, too damn bad" if people don't like it. Which, obviously, isn't even nesessary since everyone who "offended you" turned around and had to repost their Messages with clearer intentions.

Oleg, as Im sure they have all told you already in their countless 3 pages of replies... But Do what you do, and never put yourself in that spot where you havta say **** like "Well maybe I should just NEVER EVER touch that stuff again", or whatever. Be proud of what ya put out, and accept the criticism (coz it does help as far as quality control), but ****, don't let it stop you in your tracks.

I'm sure whatever jackass that invented the Tholians (if dead) is smiling in his grave that someone alive gives two ****s enough to try to breathe them life in this Game... OR (if alive) he's been too damn lazy to do it himself. LOL. Honestly I don't know. But either way stand strong - keep up the work.

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*Bump*

Just wondering if anybody took a look.

Re: tholians
 

I changed few pictures :
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/newup...1053345812.zip

I also included Proportions' AI. If you want to update ships in the race directory for unmoded SE,
take care not to overwrite AI files !

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Fine work! I always liked this set and that's why I included them in the STmod. Can I ask a favour though...can you resend me the mini images for the stations as top down shots rather than mini portraits (including the 'barge' image)? Much obliged!