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dumbluck February 2nd, 2003 12:08 PM

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What a thing to happen on my birthday!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

CNCRaymond February 2nd, 2003 12:20 PM

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This is strange. Each time Atrocities has been in the hospital, something bad has happened.

Sept 01, Twin Towers.
Oct 02, Washington Sniper
Feb 03, Columbia Shuttle.

I am sensing a pattern here. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

David E. Gervais February 2nd, 2003 01:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by CNCRaymond:
This is strange. Each time Atrocities has been in the hospital, something bad has happened.

Sept 01, Twin Towers.
Oct 02, Washington Sniper
Feb 03, Columbia Shuttle.

I am sensing a pattern here. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The Twin Towers fell on Sept, 11 (9,11) not Sept, 1.. The shuttle Columbia tradegy happened yesterday Feb, 1 (unless you meant the shuttle Challenger? which I believe happened on feb 14 {but my memory could be wrong on this!}) So much for your theory!

Quote:

Originally posted by dumbluck:
What a thing to happen on my birthday!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Mt. Saint-Helen erupted on my birthday! but that was a 'natural' desaster so it's hard to compare!

[ February 02, 2003, 11:13: Message edited by: David Gervais ]

David E. Gervais February 2nd, 2003 01:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by minipol:
Other comments on TV said this might delay the program by some 2 years. Off course this is pure speculation but that wouldn't be very positieve.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I really don't think that this time arround it will suffer much of a delay, this time there is the space station, and I know that the astronaughts up there will not be abandonned. They will need supplies and can't stay up there for two years waiting for replacements!

If it were me, I'd try to get another shuttle up as soon as posible. This kind of 'action' would both reassure the people and honor the memories and dreams of the fallen heroes!

..after all, "Delay and demoralize" is a tactic most used on an 'enemy' why would anyone use a tactic like that on friends and family?

Have a good day, CHeers!

dumbluck February 2nd, 2003 01:27 PM

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Challenger, IIRC, disintegrated on liftoff on January 19th. The Columbia astronauts (along with all other NASA personel) observed a moment of silence on the exact moment that Challenger exploded. This moment of silence took place whilst Columbia was in orbit.

edit: A quick google search finds that the challenger was lost on January 28th. So much for my memory... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

2nd edit: Mount St. Helens? Where's that, in Canada? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

3rd edit: Heres another theory for you. Apollo 1 fire tragically kills 3 astronauts on the pad: Jan 27. Challenger explosion: Jan 28th. And now Columbia on Feb. 1.

Conclusion: Don't be a NASA astronaut at the end of January/beginning of February.

[ February 02, 2003, 11:38: Message edited by: dumbluck ]

CNCRaymond February 2nd, 2003 01:39 PM

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01 = 2001
02 = 2002
03 = 2003

oleg February 2nd, 2003 04:56 PM

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ISS program will probably continue. Yesterday Russia sent a supply ship as it was planned. The major problem is how to procced with ISS construction. It would need 25 shuttle launches just to finish it. What will happen now - nobody knows.

AS of SA February 2nd, 2003 07:12 PM

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I hope they keep the ISS going. I know the shuttle can keep it going, I suppose the old Russian rockets can also send up parts. I read the Saturn V Rockets could have deployed the whole ISS in one shot. It would have required some redesign since it doesn't need to go to the moon, but it has the "Umpfh!" factor to do it.

Personally I blame the rampant tax cutting and I hope China's space program triggers the next space race.

Humanity needs to be out there, in the stars.

DavidG February 2nd, 2003 07:23 PM

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Anyone been to ebay lately? It is really nauseating how many Columbia items have been posted in the Last two days.

Arkcon February 2nd, 2003 08:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by DavidG:
However the shuttle is not necessary to bring them home. They have a Soyuz (sp?) to do that. I also heard a theory they may launch one shuttle just to bring them home if they feel it is safer that the Soyuz
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The way I heard it the Soyuz is a ballistic escape pod. Get in, fire it off, and hope you hit where you aimed. The shuttle was always considerd preferable.

Several yrs ago a soyuz landed flawlessly, with a crew of dead cosmonauts -- oxygen leak. Personally, I'd rather go in a hydrazine explosion than suffocated on re-entry. Assuming a sane person can presume to make an informed opinion on a decision like that.

At least a couple of sci-fi scenarios involve global mega corporations taking over the ISS when it's determined too expensive for governments to afford. That's silly, but maybe NASA needs to think small for a little while. Russia sure could use some time to pad it's CD's.


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