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Desdinova March 5th, 2003 09:19 AM

Re: AI Campaign => For a Challenging AI opponent
 
combined fqmdeluxe with this...setup game with 3 homeworlds...one of my new worlds is a medium ringworld...talk about a major advantage...2 systems over are 2 more ringworlds.

[ March 05, 2003, 07:20: Message edited by: desdinova ]

Fyron March 5th, 2003 10:31 AM

Re: AI Campaign => For a Challenging AI opponent
 
Quote:

Originally posted by desdinova:
combined fqmdeluxe with this...setup game with 3 homeworlds...one of my new worlds is a medium ringworld...talk about a major advantage...2 systems over are 2 more ringworlds.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That should not have happened. I think maybe you merged something wrong, as constructed worlds are not supposed to appear on random maps. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Did you copy the Small Gravity Plating and such over from FQM Deluxe? Did you copy the constructed IDs correctly for the medium RWs?

Desdinova March 5th, 2003 11:03 AM

Re: AI Campaign => For a Challenging AI opponent
 
i copied over the following files: planet size, quadrant types, secttype, systemtype and stellar ability types
edit: so what did i not copy over?
atually i am not concerned, i think of this game as if it took place after the fall of civilization. unfortunately one of the other races beat me to one of the other ringworlds.

[ March 05, 2003, 09:06: Message edited by: desdinova ]

Fyron March 5th, 2003 11:07 AM

Re: AI Campaign => For a Challenging AI opponent
 
As I said, you need the Small Gravity Plating and such components that are added in FQM Deluxe to build the Small and Medium Ringworlds.

Desdinova March 5th, 2003 11:12 AM

Re: AI Campaign => For a Challenging AI opponent
 
thanks, i will do that after this game. reminds me of the stng episode with scotty where they find the dyson sphere. i wonder what other surprises the ancients have left in this map?

JLS March 5th, 2003 09:36 PM

Re: AI Campaign => For a Challenging AI opponent
 
Quote:

Originally posted by desdinova:
combined fqmdeluxe with this...setup game with 3 homeworlds...one of my new worlds is a medium ringworld...talk about a major advantage...2 systems over are 2 more ringworlds.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">FQM is a great mod , however with that said, most DATA files are not combatable for AI Campaign Mod. If you used FQM Data files (as is) in any Non based se4 mod you may have compatibilities issues.

I would be interested in how your game turns out, desdinova http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

For some examples with the below Data files:
RacialTraits: No AI Choices, the game would error from Race general file.
Tech Area: Game would error here as well from Race research calls.
Components: the AI and human players would be unable to gain there specific design calls.
Vehicles file: needed for AI balance mod portion of game, mine sweeping, late game balance. Also required to be unchanged for design calls.
Facility file: is required for Race construction calls.
Most Default_AI_Files same as above applies.
CompEnhancement: some AI balancing
Events: some redundant changes
IntelProjects: some changes
PlanetSize: Required for balance on some race issues.
RepairPriorities: Identical
Settings: Preference but with some required Specific related entry’s.

With StellarAbilityTypes, SystemTypes and QuadrantTypes files in AI Campaign are designed and balanced for Finite play and to help keep the AI ahead of the resource degradation curb in SE4. AI Campaign does not utilize the vast amount of asteroids and moons as FQM does due to the AI’s inabilities to Robo mine asteroids in se4 and the added moons would only encourage the AI to land on more tiny planets not that that is a bad thing; in itself. Their is a balanced amount of Asteroids and moons in AIC currently that will help the Human Player and utilize Robo and Sat mining and hopefully not tip the scales to much in favor of the Human Player versus the Computer opponent.

Now, with that stated http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I would look forward to work with Fryon and it would be an honor to help with the interface of his FQM Mod with AI Campaign.

[ March 05, 2003, 19:37: Message edited by: JLS ]

HercMighty March 5th, 2003 10:11 PM

Re: AI Campaign => For a Challenging AI opponent
 
Now this is what I would like to see http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif When I got interested in SE4 these are the two mods that I found the most appealing. If I could get the best of both worlds ... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

JLS March 5th, 2003 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by HercMighty:
Now this is what I would like to see http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif When I got interested in SE4 these are the two mods that I found the most appealing. If I could get the best of both worlds ... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually the Parent Mod you are playing is Proportions by Peter von Kleinsmid (PvK)
AND I am going to mention this wether PvK wants/likes it or not http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
Which is in Fact my Favorite Game and I encourage you to play especially if you go Multiplayer with only a few to No AI Computer players.

Proportions Web Site

What AI Campaign does is add a series of my Mods to Proportions 2.52:

AI BALANCE MOD
TACTICAL FIGHTER MOD
FINITE ECONOMICS MOD
MULTIPLAYER LADDER HANDICAP MOD

AI Campaign is basicly the Sum of above then optimized for Solitaire Play, Simultaneous Play, and Finite resources. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ March 06, 2003, 00:36: Message edited by: JLS ]

Ceyan March 6th, 2003 05:09 AM

Re: AI Campaign => For a Challenging AI opponent
 
... is the AIC mod meant to be stand-alone or used with the Proportions mod?

JLS March 6th, 2003 05:30 AM

Re: AI Campaign => For a Challenging AI opponent
 
AI Campaign is a stand-alone model.

This introduces abilities for the AI player and Human Player with the Mods described below…
Created specifically for a more challenging AI. AI balance allows the AI and Human Players to have some specific Components, Vehicles, and Abilities. Some examples are: the AI better handles mines now, point to point re-supply, faster ship training, sector scanning, Stellar manipulations, combating Plagues to name a few.

Finite modifications: helps the AI better handle finite play and will enhance greatly the value of building Towns and Cities in AI Campaign, and Introduces Imperial Trade, trade center Facility and Asteroid Resource Domes.

Tactical Fighter modifications: Fighters now move in Tactical combat only. On the Strategic map, when launched over a planet or any sector, they remain on combat patrol for that sector until recovered by a Carrier or your planet. This makes for some interesting strategies and designs.

[ March 06, 2003, 03:45: Message edited by: JLS ]


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