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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Started the game way before the Ratings system began. I never reported it and I assume Gandalph did not as we never discussed it.

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Yeah, put me down for another loss in the Ratings game 2 against Gandalph.

I really don't understand how I got so bad at this game. I was never the best player, but I was at least competative. Any more in every game I play I am way behind in tech and econ from the start. I suck at every aspect of the game and get my butt handed to me almost every time. The only way I win is if I get a primo starting position, and even then I find a way to lose unless the opponent has a really sucky starting spot.

It's very discouraging. I don't think I am going to play SE4 much longer.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Geo, dude, I know how you feel. Play a game with Asmala. Then, when he beats you, he'll show you how he did it. I learned a lot from him.

Don't get discouraged...the game's too good! And you may just be having a bad run.

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Congrats to Slynky: The new no. 1 ranked player in the world http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Our Challenge match, with these rules:
- 5 planet start
- Full tech
- No intel
- No Stellar Manipulation
- No Talisman
- 3,000 racial points
was played on a grid map without any obvious chokepoints.

The short story: I colonized like mad. Slynky was smart enough to go straight on the attack. Game over at turn 33. Well played by Slynky.

Edit: Cosmetics

[ September 21, 2003, 01:47: Message edited by: primitive ]

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So Primitive since you are free you want to give me a rematch? The wife is watching the Miss America pagent tonight so we might get the first dozen turns in quick. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL,
Its 3.30 in the morning over here, let a poor guy sleep.

Seriously, I would love to play you again, but I have just challenged Slynky to a rematch (full tech game) on a special map. He has first choice for that game (its already on PBW). If he declines, your next in line http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I'll post the details on the game in a bit (then I go to bed, I really need my beautysleep)

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It's a wicked game, Geo! I got lucky (I think). I knew he was out-colonizing me, so I only had one choice...build warships and make the colony count even again (if I could). I think people know I'm a bit methodical and defensive...perhaps it caught Primitive off guard to have me go on the offensive.

I was a good game and had good anticipation level.

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Site updated:

Welcome to the SE4 Ratings system, Alneyan!

Three game results posted.
Two games added.

11 Games in progress.
21 players being rated.
27 players in the system (still waiting on Stone Mill and DavidG to join http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

Reminder: Check this thread after joining a rated game or completing one to make sure your results have been posted. It usually happens within 24 hours of reporting.

Remember, this rating system is a fair estimate (I say estimate because luck sometimes plays a part of the outcome) of one's ability in a great game. A player can have fun AND see how well they stack up. After all, aren't we all out to have fun AND see how good we are?

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Note for all Ratings members:

I've added my email address below to make it easier to report Ratings matters (instead of having to find it or go to the Ratings site).

Cheers!

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Site Updated:

Game completion (Parabolize vs Deccan)

Ratings (boring) stats:

Site has nearly 700 hits. Shows (at least) some interest.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">*Sigh*. Now I'm officially the worst player in the game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

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Let me look into it a bit. Not sure I've captured all the info I need for that but I think I've captured some of it.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">With only a dozen or so games completed I am sure we can recover any information you might need if we do it now. Later it will be a problem though. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Well, right now, I'm looking into mowing the grass...hehe...doppler says it's gonna rain in about 2 hours.

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Slynky,

Three suggestions.

First, instead of all new people showing on the list as ranking of 1000, put them at the bottom of the list and label them as unranked. Personally I think someone like Deccan or myself that have earned our Ratings, low as they may be, deserve to be placed above someone who hasn't recorded a score yet. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Secondly, how about listing the won loss record somewhere. It's not as important as the rating score, but it might be nice to see.

Finally it would be cool to have a record on the site somewhere of recorded games. Who beat who, that sort of thing. Like the Koth page has.

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Site updated:

One game completion.

Two games added.

As always, let me know if I missed something.

[ September 24, 2003, 03:12: Message edited by: Slynky ]

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Query -
I won 1 game with both of us have a rating of 1000 - I earn 16 points, the most you can win/lose in any game.
I loose a game against Primative who had a higher rating than me, and lose 16 points.
Your maths equation stumps me, or I'd do it myself but I thought that because I lost a match to a higher rated player, I would lose less then 16 points.
I am assuming that it was because our Ratings were still close enough to gain/lose the max of 16 points, but I just want to confirm it with you Slynky.
Thanks.

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I did a little math, and it looks like your score must differ by 22 points to get off the 16/16 split. I am not sure how the rounding works, so call it (22 +/- 11)

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually, I think you had a higher score than Primitive at the completion of your game. I had beaten him on the 20th (which lowered his rating to somewhere around 1013... I can't remember exactly) and if you lost 16 points (and now have 1000 even), then you must have had 1016 before the game with Primitive came to an end (you won a game on the 21st).

So, I believe you were just a few points higher than him...(remember to check the site after your games have been completed).

Cheers!

[ September 24, 2003, 23:52: Message edited by: Slynky ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'll check it out. But, I would suspect that's the explanation. I don't know what the "span" (or difference) can be before the losing player gets 15 instead of 16.

To clarify something else, I think the max a rating can change is 32 points, not 16. Most of them are around 16 (or 15 and 17) at the moment because most of the scores are still around 1,000. But if someone rated 100 beat someone rated 2,000, there would surely be a 32 point addition and subtraction.

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Site updated:

Welcome to the SE4 Rating system, Loser!

4 games added.
1 game completed.

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Thanks Slynky, that has put my mind to rest. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">NP, Baron.

PS: Added another column to the statistics page to make it easier to see your positional ranking.

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Gecko Has beaten me in our game. It was an easy victory for him. I did count coup and destroyed one of his planets at the end.
Gozguy

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No biggy Slynky, but you have missed adding the "KOTH - Alneyan vs Baron Grazic" onto the list of games I'm currently in. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I just looked and see it. Hmmmmm.

[EDIT] - Actually, it's under the Games sort but NOT under the PLAYER sort...'cause I mispelled your name...I'll get it fixed and I apologize for the typing error.

[ September 26, 2003, 00:49: Message edited by: Slynky ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It is always important to count coup. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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Thanks Slynky. I didn't even notice any spelling error in my name.

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The site was updated recently to add more information.

Also, people who haven't completed a game yet (and have the starting 1,000 points) are not listed on the Ratings page. I'm thinking of listing EVERYONE on a members list somewhere.

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Better. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Site Update:

1 game finish.
1 Game added.

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Site update:

1 game added.

Some miscellaneous statistics:

Site visted by 18 different countries http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif
43 people added the site to their Favorites http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif
More visits in September than in August (well, I hope so... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

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Site updated:

1 game completed.

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Site updated:

1 game completed.
1 game added.

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I like the site! I think I'll take part in a game or two this winter when I'm cooped up.

But otwo suggestions, Can you make the front banner smaller and make a wall paper Version for us all!

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Site updated:

1 game completed.
1 game added.

(1 game canceled).

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slynky put falling icons under my name please http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Wasn't aware that it was a multi-player game. Did I miss an email from you? (I hate it when that happens http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon8.gif ).

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yes it is multi plr
if you want you can look at the game forum for who wants to be rated (some dont is that ok?)

btw i am not 2 people please put falling icon parabolize and koth/challenge parabolize under one name http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

edit: the spelling was what did it. parabolize not parobolize http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ October 06, 2003, 03:08: Message edited by: parabolize ]

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Just you mind your tongue or I'll start spelling it, "Parbolize"! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

PS: Having non-rated players in a multi-player game is fine.

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Site updated:

1 game completed.
1 error fixed (yoo-hoo, Paraboloze http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

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ahh.. fixed...
please look again http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">?

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nevermind (for some reason when i go to the site its not up to date but if i hit F5 key it is http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif )

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yeah, someone smarter than I will need to explain that to me as well. It seems to need to be refreshed to pick up the changes. Other sites don't work that way, so I'd like to know what FrontPage has done on this one... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

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Site updated:

2 games completed.
1 game added.

[ October 08, 2003, 01:12: Message edited by: Slynky ]

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Site updated:

1 Game added.

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Update:

K.O.T.H. Gecko vs Parabolize
Gecko defeats Parabolize 10/13/2003.

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Site updated:

2 games added.
1 game completed.

Please check to make sure the site is correct if you have had some "action" to be posted (to make sure I didn't miss anything).

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Site updated:

1 game added.

(still need confirmation from you, Geo, on your KOTH game being rated http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )