Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

Definitely force host. He is going to stale again anyway. I think he has forgotten about the game.

I hope he eventually comes in and makes it computer controlled so it will not be quite as easy for someone to get a free capital.

[ August 02, 2004, 02:21: Message edited by: The Panther ]

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

I am talking to Klatu now. He is going to force host it.

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

We are hosted to turn 10

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

This got pushed to page 4 already. I actually know where the majority of the players are and I am sure you guys have your spies everywhere as well so this is for easy diplomatic reference.

Aku - Abysia
Klatu - Man
Boron - Pangaea
Pickles - R'lyeh
Drool - T'ien Ch'i
Starwarsluke - Caelum
Lukes brother - Arcoscephale
Alexi - Vanheim
PashaDawg - Machaka
Panther - Pythium

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

hey all, Your server host hear Klatu. I just discovered I can access T'ien Ch'i. So as of tomorrow (next turn) I will put him on AI (normal).

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

i wonder if we could get everyone on for a few hours and do a few turns in a night..

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

It is very difficult to arrange that. We could get close but I doubt we could get all of us especially with all the varying time zones. If everyone did check the game a lot though we could maybe get a few turns a day.

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

I noticed that T'ien Chi moved immediately after the forced host, which means he is now computer controlled. At least the AI will spend money now on troops and not sit there doing nothing.

Your doing a fine job as host, Klatu.

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

Well Klatu checked if he could. He didnt turn Tien Chi into computer controlled yet but will do so tomorrow if we do not hear from drool.

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

Hmm.... Then why did Tien Chi move immediately after hosting?

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

Klatu went into Tien Chi to check if he could turn him into AI and Klatu can. We are probably like 99% chance going to have to turn Tien Chi into AI but Klatu is going to give Drool some more time to respond.

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

Originally posted by The Panther:
" Hmm.... Then why did Tien Chi move immediately after hosting? "

Perhaps this was as a result of Klatu opening it up?

I am glad we might have an AI rather than a forced host - both are distorting but AI is probably more fair to those not nearby - it will lose but willl fight.


Oh and since the game is 24 hour host people are entitled to take 24hrs. Of course staling canels this right.

It would be nice to play a game with a blitz phase - several turns on one day every so often but it proved hard to arrange with our other newb game. I guess it would be easier to manage if you start one up with that as a criteria then everyone knows in advance & commits to it. eg 168 hour quick host except on thursdays 2100 until 0000 GMT when its 20 minute quick host.
This would be like a regular weekly FTF game rather than a PBEM!

A problem is time zones of course.


Hmm anyone intereseted in something like that?


Pickles

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

Yeah that would be interesting but can everyone get together at same time to do the blitzing is the hard part.

And about drool...he was not only staling 4 days in a row...he was doing his turns in other games so wtf. If he didnt want to play this game anymore or something he should say something instead of playing his other games and staling on this one. He needs to respond soon before he gets turned into the AI.

I read your post again pickles and see what you meant. It would be interesting to start a game with a set blitz time so only people able to do it would join the game. It is an interesting idea that would be fun to do.

[ August 02, 2004, 09:26: Message edited by: Aku ]

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">forgot to post my opinion here .

yeah force host and turn drool to ai as fast as possible .

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

Check this one out for a neutral in my territory:
"The province contains about 100 hostile units. The army consists mainly of Heavy Infantries, Knights, and Eternal Knights." http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Any guesses on just how darn long this place will remain independant? And this is with indy set at 6!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

Originally posted by The Panther:
"The province contains about 100 hostile units. The army consists mainly of Heavy Infantries, Knights, and Eternal Knights."

NP it's probably only scouting inaccuracies and there are only 50 knights (cough).
hhm - any idea what an eternal knight is? Sounds bad but you may get to recruit it.

Some of those reports can be misleading - hoburg with a devil - means 1 devil per turn. Druids can mean Darkvines which are really bad news.


Pickles

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">ouch those hoburgs with devils are so scary http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
any blood mages in indi provinces are evil because they often summon hordes of imps so always the option for a lucky magekill http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

some indeps are really evil .
between me and pickles in newbie game 1 is an indy province with a golem leading living statues + gargoyles .
also we are at about turn 35 the province is still independent . neither pickles nor i have dared to attack it still http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

i guess your province is a good candidate for a similiar destiny panther http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

[quote]Originally posted by Boron:"between me and pickles in newbie game 1 is an indy province with a golem leading living statues + gargoyles .
also we are at about turn 35 the province is still independent . neither pickles nor i have dared to attack it still http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif "

well it has got your dominion at 7 now so it looks like a big waste of time to me now.

Pickles

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

Hey All, This is your server host Klatu.

Please note: T'ien Ch'i is now AI controlled.

Hopefully thing will now speed up. lol

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

I think an enternal knight is those flying power dudes who come with the mercenary Orion. I believe they cannot be recruited, but at least I will get ordinary knights there if needed.

I may attack with a scout and see exactly what they are. If he is unable to retreat because they do fly, then it is not a big loss that way. And if I do this, I will post the stats of those guys in here for all us newbies.

But yes, it is a candidate for staying neutral a long time. Unfortunate for me because I plan to put a castle in the adjacent province at some future point.

And it was 70 the first time I could see it, so there ought to be less than 100.

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

Eternal Knights don't fly - and they aren't really knights either, having neither horses nor lances. They are just very powerful infantry with flambeaus and (IIRC) they are ethereal.

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

I guess it looks like panther wont take that indy province until turn 50 now lol.

Oh and just the luke brothers and pashadawg left for their turns.

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

If me and my brother were to use a different computer entirely to take our turns for awhile. Would that still be considered a Cd Key violation and our turn orders ignored? I am asking this because I suspect that me and my brother will not be able to use the desktop computer for a week starting on August 30th.

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I do believe the server tracks CDkey violations by the following method: Two nations are checked for having uploaded from both the same IP, and the same CDkey. If you are the same IP and same CDkey, you are assumed to be one person playing two nations. If you are the same IP and two different CD keys, you are different people behind a NAT firewall. If you have different IPs and different keys, you are different people. If you have the same key, and different IPs....well, sucks to be you.

[ August 03, 2004, 01:07: Message edited by: Norfleet ]

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

Well that makes things simpler thanks for answering yet another question of mine Norfleet.

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

OK, here are the stats on the enternal knight, which is infantry and does not fly:

HP - 14
Prot - 12
Morale - 30
Magic R - 14
Str - 12
A - 12
D - 12
Precision - 10
Move 2/10
It also is sacred, has 100% fire resistance, and regenerates 2 HP per turn.

They are led by a powerful priest with the flambeau, which does 13 AP damage and also casts the holy pyre spell.

Not bad, and it would be nice if I could recruit those eternal knights there when I take it and build a temple. But I really doubt that will happen.


I have decided to attack it with my god and 8 archers in 4 squads, hoping to kill the priest with proper battlefield management and good scripting. Since there is only the one commander, I hope to get them to retreat by killing that leader quickly.

Of course, I could lose my pretender and be just like my neighbor Vanheim. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

More likely, if it fails, I will lose my archers and the God will safely retreat. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

since it is one commander...you have any good assassins maybe to take the leader out?

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

you're counting on 8 archers to accuratly take out one target from accross the battlefield before an army of nasties takes them out?.. if you pull this off, that would definitly be something.


oh, and it seems half the players put in their turns after only an hour of quickhosting... sounds promising!

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">"Needs to respond" - I take it you sent him a message reminding him of the game, asking him wtf? Sometimes people forget about a particular game.

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

I personally sent him two pms. One was after the first stale and another after the third stale. The first pm was read but no response. The second pm has not been read still.

He has been doing his turns in another game we have him in but this one except for today when he staled in that one too. I don't know why he would stale 4 days in a row in one game but not in the other game until now. And he should of at least replied or something because he did read my first pm.

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sounds like someone I'd want to keep out of games I was in.

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

If he has an explanation if he shows up then it would be ok but if not then yeah it would be a bad idea to partake in games he is in.

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No, of course not. My god is taking out the commander with wait and attack rear. The archers just have to survive the charging knights long enough to keep my commander from autorouting. That is the plan anyway...

The enemy priest is far too powerful for a regular assassin to kill. Only my god can kill that dude.

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No, of course not. My god is taking out the commander with wait and attack rear. The archers just have to survive the charging knights long enough to keep my commander from autorouting. That is the plan anyway...

The enemy priest is far too powerful for a regular assassin to kill. Only my god can kill that dude. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">actually, i saw your pretender, and one-on-one with a priest i doubt he'll break a sweat. i'd be more worried about getting swarmed. it'll all come down to timing.. you're probably puttin your guys way at the back and doing the classic "wait for it.... wait for it... waaiiit foor it!!!..." while the knights advance leaving their priest vulnerable.. but doesn't the AI always leave bodyguards on their casters?

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

Originally posted by Alexi:

"the knights advance leaving their priest vulnerable.. but doesn't the AI always leave bodyguards on their casters?"

They would presumably get mauled by anything close to a SC pretender - though I suppose they may slow him down enough for the archers to break. I would be more concerned about badly implemented orders - the Pretender getting distracted & smacking into the back of the knights. Seems pretty random what happens with attack rear but flying helps a lot.

Pickles

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

only lukes brothers turn is left, he has less than 4 hours, dont want him to stale

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">In the scout attack, I saw that the commander had no bodyguards. If fact, he stayed behind to cast spells, thus providing some separation between him and the Heavy Infantry.

My biggest worry is that the pretender does not fly all the way to the back and lands in the infantry. If I have scripted it correctly, he has two rounds of attacks before my archers are gone. He could possibly be dead in two rounds from the sheer mass of HI.

Hm... I am getting cold feet. Maybe I ought to play it safe and not attack. After all, I am a total newbie and never did anything like this before.


CHICKEN???

Edited to say 'Cluck cluck!' I just changed it to not attack.

[ August 03, 2004, 18:19: Message edited by: The Panther ]

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

oh COMMON!!! Come join me in the Dead Pretenders Club! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

PS its a very exclusive club. yet its not at all hard to join..

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

"My biggest worry is that the pretender does not fly all the way to the back and lands in the infantry."

someone posted in a thread not long ago that for every squad you have to make a morale save. if you fail, your troops/SC attacks them instead of the rear.

But your Pretender has pretty high morale, so he should have no problem flyin to the rear..

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

" oh COMMON!!! Come join me in the Dead Pretenders Club! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif "

Love to but I am immobile & aquatic (I guess I could teleport onto dry land..)

Pickles

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

I guess since people are giving clues on their pretenders...mine wont join the dead pretenders club because I chose an immortal one. My first time playing an immortal pretender. And I wont be fighting in unfriendly dominion with him either lol.

I am going to be doing my turn in an hour.

[ August 03, 2004, 21:07: Message edited by: Aku ]

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

Server seems down atm

Pickles

but I may have bust it/my connection

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

Yeah its down for me too. Going to call Klatu's house and have him reboot the server.

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

I gave him a call. He will be getting home within the hour and then will reboot the server. I believe the only person who had to do their turn was luke unless he did it and it hosted already I dont know.

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

I had already taken my turn.

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

Cool so we get a new turn when the server gets rebooted. Should be soon. I will have Klatu post when he reboots it.

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

[ August 04, 2004, 01:46: Message edited by: Klatu ]

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

Hey All, Its me again your server host Klatu.

The server is restarted. Go for it! LOL

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

only lukes brother is left, 10 hours left

Re: MP Game - Newbie Game (by Aku)
 

Server seems to be down as usual

Pickles